DaveinOlyWA
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Re: Electrify America Network

Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:11 pm

Interesting. I "saw" a Bolt exceeding the plate specs on EVgo nearly 3 years ago. Was pulling 136 amps on a station I had never seen more than 122 amps from. The strange thing is that even my Plus won't pull more than 122 amps from the same station. Possible the station was "adjusted" but that seems a bit unlikely.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:31 pm

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GRA
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Re: Electrify America Network

Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:38 pm

ABG:
2021 Volkswagen ID.4 to come with 3 years free charging

They can plug in for free at Electrify America chargers

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/09/21/vw- ... y-america/


Can't say I'm surprised, but will definitely increase the competitiveness of the ID.4, especially since VW claimed that max. charge rate is 125kW.
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SageBrush
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Re: Electrify America Network

Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:00 pm

GRA wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:38 pm
but will definitely increase the competitiveness of the ID.4, especially since VW claimed that max. charge rate is 125kW.
125 kW, competitive ?

Oh wait, you are comparing to a LEAF
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Two years in Colorado, now in NM
03/18: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
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cwerdna
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Re: Electrify America Network

Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:18 pm

SageBrush wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:00 pm
GRA wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:38 pm
but will definitely increase the competitiveness of the ID.4, especially since VW claimed that max. charge rate is 125kW.
125 kW, competitive ?

Oh wait, you are comparing to a LEAF
HyunKia's higher powered offerings do about 70ish kW at max.

Gen 2 Ioniq took a step back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsWq_YrbDhs. He peaks at 46 or 47 kW.

I made some observations about Clarity BEV DC FCing at viewtopic.php?p=590125#p590125. I don't know what they peak at. But, it's kinda moot since the Clarity BEV is dead for the US now.

Bolt maxes out at 55 kW.

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Re: Electrify America Network

Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:56 pm

SageBrush wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:00 pm
GRA wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:38 pm
but will definitely increase the competitiveness of the ID.4, especially since VW claimed that max. charge rate is 125kW.
125 kW, competitive ?

Oh wait, you are comparing to a LEAF
I'm comparing to every sub-$40k BEV: bar some M3 SR/SR+/MR, everything else in that price range is sub-80kW max.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Tue Sep 22, 2020 5:15 pm

Checked out two different EVgo "50 kW" QC sites by bike today to compare to the supposed "100 kW" site, and aside from having ABB instead of BTC chargers they should deliver the same rate to a ~400V pack, as the output side is 50-500VDC, 125A.
Input was 480Y/277, 75A AC.
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SageBrush
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Re: Electrify America Network

Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:48 pm

GRA wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 5:15 pm
Checked out two different EVgo "50 kW" QC sites by bike today to compare to the supposed "100 kW" site, and aside from having ABB instead of BTC chargers they should deliver the same rate to a ~400V pack, as the output side is 50-500VDC, 125A.
Input was 480Y/277, 75A AC.
Perhaps there is also some potential sharing
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Bought Jan 2017 from N. California
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
03/18: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
11/18: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
09/20: 54.3 Ahr; 38k miles
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GRA
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Re: Electrify America Network

Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:03 pm

SageBrush wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:48 pm
GRA wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 5:15 pm
Checked out two different EVgo "50 kW" QC sites by bike today to compare to the supposed "100 kW" site, and aside from having ABB instead of BTC chargers they should deliver the same rate to a ~400V pack, as the output side is 50-500VDC, 125A.
Input was 480Y/277, 75A AC.
Perhaps there is also some potential sharing

Wouldn't explain how a charger limited to 125A could charge a ~400V pack at over 50kW. 500V x 125A is 62.5kW, and 550V x 125A is 68.75kW, but a ~400V pack can't get to either maximum. So either the chargers can exceed their rated amps, or the kW rates displayed are erroneous.
Guy [I have lots of experience designing/selling off-grid AE systems, some using EVs but don't own one. Local trips are by foot, bike and/or rapid transit].

The 'best' is the enemy of 'good enough'. Copper shot, not Silver bullets.

DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Electrify America Network

Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:22 pm

I just checked our local EA station in Lincolnwood and sadly the Chademo is still throttled to 50.
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