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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:04 pm

All GCC:
Denyo and Toyota jointly develop and start verification tests for fuel cell power supply vehicle that uses hydrogen to generate electricity

https://www.greencarcongress.com/2020/0 ... denyo.html


H2@Scale project launched in Texas; renewable hydrogen for multiple end-use applications

https://www.greencarcongress.com/2020/0 ... texas.html


Ballard launches high-power density fuel cell stack for vehicle propulsion; 4.3 kW/L; Audi partner

https://www.greencarcongress.com/2020/0 ... llard.html


Snam and Saipem sign MoU to work together on green hydrogen development and CO2 capture

https://www.greencarcongress.com/2020/0 ... -snam.html


Hyundai expands NEXO fuel cell SUV availability in Northern California

https://www.greencarcongress.com/2020/0 ... -nexo.html
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:29 pm

GCC:
Guidehouse Insights forecasts emerging hydrogen production technologies to show 20% CAGR from 2020-2029

https://www.greencarcongress.com/2020/0 ... 02-gh.html

. . . Four emerging technologies—alkaline electrolyzers (AES), proton exchange membrane (PEM) electrolyzers, solid oxide electrolysis cells (SOECs), and biomass gasifiers—are expected to move the market forward as decarbonization becomes increasingly important and costs for green hydrogen (or hydrogen produced with no emissions) decline. . . .
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:25 pm

GCC:
Airbus releases three hydrogen-powered concepts for zero-emission aircraft by 2035; ZEROe
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2020/0 ... irbus.html

Turbofan, turboprop, and BWB turbofan. LH2.


ABG:
New policies in China will support hydrogen vehicle sales

Toyota and Hyundai have already announced launch plans for hydrogen vehicles in China
https://www.autoblog.com/2020/09/21/chi ... -policies/

. . . While previous policies to support NEV makers had offered subsidies on sales, the fresh rollout will require local governments and companies to build a more mature supply chain and business model for the industry.

Local governments and companies need to prove their joint projects are able to lower the price of hydrogen fuel, increase the number of hydrogen-charging stations, enlarge hydrogen fuel cell vehicle fleets and improve related technologies, according to the document.

Authorities will offer rewards to the projects after an assessment of these key performance areas, the ministry said. . . .

China has over 7,000 hydrogen vehicles, compared with over 4 million pure battery electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles. . . .
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:47 pm

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ZeroAvia completes first hydrogen-electric passenger plane flight
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2020/0 ... oavia.html

. . . The flight took place at the company’s R&D facility in Cranfield, England, with the Piper M-class six-seat plane completing taxi, takeoff, a full pattern circuit, and landing. . . .

ZeroAvia will now turn its attention to the next and final stage of its six-seat development program—a 250-mile zero emission flight out of an airfield in Orkney before the end of the year. The demonstration of this range is roughly equivalent to busy major routes such as Los Angeles to San Francisco or London to Edinburgh. . . .

Ballard expanding MEA production capacity 6x by early 2021 to meet expected growth in fuel cell vehicle demand
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2020/0 ... lard2.html
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:54 pm

GCC:
US and the Netherlands to collaborate on hydrogen production and infrastructure
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2020/1 ... doeh2.html
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:34 pm

GCC:
Blue World Technologies starting production of methanol fuel cells
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2020/1 ... world.html
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:54 pm

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Fuel cell industry forms new alliance for rapid deployment of heavy-duty vehicles in Western US: WSHA
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2020/1 ... -wsha.html

Members of the hydrogen and fuel cell industry formally announced a new alliance to effect rapid deployment of zero-emission hydrogen fuel cell electric trucks, buses, locomotives, vessels, aircraft and off-road equipment throughout the Western United States.

The Western States Hydrogen Alliance (WSHA) is made up of leading figures in the heavy-duty hydrogen fuel cell industry and will focus on a rapid increase in development and deployment of fuel cell electric technology across multiple commercial sectors in 13 western states. . . .

With a regional focus on the Western US, the Alliance will aim to deploy commercial fuel cell electric vehicles in applications from the Rocky Mountains to the Hawaiian Islands and everywhere in between, focusing first on areas hardest hit by diesel pollution.

While the majority of hydrogen fuel cell activity currently exists within the State of California, the WSHA hopes to increase that market while developing a regional market outside the boundaries of the Golden State.

ArcelorMittal Europe to produce “green steel” starting in 2020
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2020/1 ... stahl.html

ArcelorMittal Europe provided some details of the CO2 technology strategy that will enable it to offer its first green steel solutions to customers this year (30,000 tonnes); scale up this offering in coming years (to reach 120,000 tonnes in 2021 and 600,000 tonnes by 2022); deliver its 30% CO2 emissions target by 2030; and achieve net zero by 2050.

The strategy is centred around two main technology routes, as introduced in the first ArcelorMittal Europe climate action report published earlier this year:

The use of hydrogen in DRI-EAF (Direct Reduced Iron - Electric Arc Furnace) and, also, the blast furnace

The expansion of its Smart Carbon route, also utilizing hydrogen

Hydrogen. Hydrogen plays a central role in the company’s decarbonization strategy. ArcelorMittal Europe is developing a series of industrial-scale hydrogen projects for use in blast furnace-based steelmaking that will start to deliver substantial CO2 emissions savings even within the next five years, as well as progressing a project to test the ability of hydrogen to reduce iron ore and form DRI on an industrial scale.

Ultimately to reach zero, this hydrogen will need to be green (produced via electrolysis which is powered by renewable electricity). ArcelorMittal is therefore developing new facilities to produce green hydrogen using electrolyzers. Teams at ArcelorMittal Bremen in Germany are working on the first large-scale deployment of this technology which can then be deployed in both the blast furnace and the DRI-EAF route. Previously, this emerging technology has only been tested at small pilot plants in Europe.

Hydrogen and the blast furnace. By installing an electrolyzer, hydrogen can be produced and injected in large volumes into the blast furnace tuyeres. The project will reduce the volumes of coal needed in the iron ore reduction process, thereby cutting CO2 emissions.

At ArcelorMittal Dunkerque, the company is developing a hybrid blast furnace process, which involves using DRI gas injection technology in the blast furnace shaft as well as using gas injection in the blast furnace tuyeres, using plasma technology to create a reducing gas.

This is the first large-scale implementation of what is essentially a hybrid blast furnace/DRI technology. In due course it will enable green hydrogen to be injected into the blast furnace as it becomes available. . . .

Toyota REXH2 fuel cell module successfully tested on boat over more than 7,000 nautical miles, including trans-Atlantic crossings
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2020/1 ... rexh2.html

The REXH2 is a modular maritime hydrogen power solution developed around Toyota’s fuel cell technology. It has been succesfully tested in real open sea conditions aboard the Energy Observer boat for over more than 7,000 nautical miles including trans-Atlantic crossings.

The hydrogen-electric hybrid technology in the REXH2 makes silent maritime and river mobility without emissions of CO2 or fine particles possible.

Energy Observer Developments (EODev) presented this REXH2 in the HYNOVA 40, a 12m boat from HYNOVA Yachts, which can be used as a day-boat or a superyacht tender. While the Energy Observer boat’s main propulsion comes from electricity directly generated from sun and wind, the HYNOVA Yacht is a battery electric boat, supplemented with the Hydrogen Range Extender with the Toyota fuel cell at its core.

With a capacity of 12 passengers, it is the first pleasure boat equipped with fuel cell technolgy and brings zero emissions, hydrogen-electric hybrid technology to the wider maritime industry.

The Toyota Fuel Cell Module inside the REXH2 delivers up to 60 kW rated net power and is based on the existing fuel cell technology from the Toyota Mirai. The R&D carried out by the EODev and Toyota teams has made it possible to perfectly adapt the technology to the challenging conditions of the marine environment. . . .

MSC sees hydrogen and biofuels as key components of shipping’s future fuel mix
Mediterranean Shipping Company (MSC), a global leader in transportation and logistics, said it is further exploring the viability of hydrogen and fuels derived from it as a possible fuel source for the future for container shipping, and is increasingly pioneering the use of biofuels within its existing fleet.

Speaking on 5 October at the inaugural Maritime Transport Efficiency Conference in Geneva, Switzerland, where MSC is headquartered, Bud Darr, Executive Vice President, Maritime Policy & Government Affairs at MSC Group, outlined some preferred options in a keynote speech on decarbonization and during a panel discussion on fuels for the future.

There’s no one single solution to decarbonize shipping; we need a range of alternative fuels at scale and we need them urgently. The future of shipping and decarbonisation will rely on strong partnerships from both the perspective of technology collaboration and procurement.

—Bud Darr . . . .
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:57 am

A very detailed look at hydrogen and where it Is, and isn’t a clear winner.

https://about.bnef.com/blog/liebreich-s ... 1LzOnWk67M
As you look at role of clean hydrogen in this future net-zero energy system, you should notice something striking. None of the compelling use cases for hydrogen are widely distributed. No massive demand for hydrogen filling stations, nor hydrogen boilers, no hydrogen-based heat in most industries. The overwhelming bulk of its use will be in the chemicals industry and the power system.
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:57 am

Zythryn wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:57 am
A very detailed look at hydrogen and where it Is, and isn’t a clear winner.

https://about.bnef.com/blog/liebreich-s ... 1LzOnWk67M
As you look at role of clean hydrogen in this future net-zero energy system, you should notice something striking. None of the compelling use cases for hydrogen are widely distributed. No massive demand for hydrogen filling stations, nor hydrogen boilers, no hydrogen-based heat in most industries. The overwhelming bulk of its use will be in the chemicals industry and the power system.
Thanks -- excellent article. This line made me chuckle even though I know it to be true
The late Frank Zappa once said that stupidity, rather than hydrogen, was the most common element on the planet. What he did not tell us is that, in the minds of car buffs, the two combine to create the alloy Hopeium, which has an extraordinary ability to absorb public and private money.
And by the way, I think Frank stole the idea from Einstein. The latter said (paraphrased) 'the only 2 substances known that are infinite in quantity are the universe and stupidity. And I'm not positive about the universe.'
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:19 am

SageBrush wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:57 am
And by the way, I think Frank stole the idea from Einstein. The latter said (paraphrased) 'the only 2 substances known that are infinite in quantity are the universe and stupidity. And I'm not positive about the universe.'
Probably not a valid Einstein quote.

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/0 ... -einstein/

https://freakonomics.com/2009/05/14/quo ... stupidity/

Doesn't mean it's not a valid statement, but no good evidence that Albert Einstein said this.
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