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White House has given up:
https://twitter.com/EricDKoch/status/1320361055923720192?s=20 (about 1.5 minute excerpt of interview w/Mark Meadows on CNN)

The below also report on this.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/25/politics/mark-meadows-controlling-coronavirus-pandemic-cnntv/index.html
https://www.yahoo.com/now/jake-tapper-mark-meadows-pence-coronavirus-control-143125422.html

https://twitter.com/CNNSotu/status/1320360894182862850?s=20 is about 5.5 minutes long and has the above clip but more of it...
Mark Meadows: “We’re not going to control the pandemic, we are going to control the fact that we get vaccines, therapeutics and other mitigations.”

Jake Tapper: “Why aren’t we going to get control of the pandemic?”

Meadows: “Because it is a contagious virus” #CNNSOTU
 
cwerdna said:
White House has given up:
https://twitter.com/EricDKoch/status/1320361055923720192?s=20 (about 1.5 minute excerpt of interview w/Mark Meadows on CNN)

The below also report on this.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/25/politics/mark-meadows-controlling-coronavirus-pandemic-cnntv/index.html
https://www.yahoo.com/now/jake-tapper-mark-meadows-pence-coronavirus-control-143125422.html

https://twitter.com/CNNSotu/status/1320360894182862850?s=20 is about 5.5 minutes long and has the above clip but more of it...
Mark Meadows: “We’re not going to control the pandemic, we are going to control the fact that we get vaccines, therapeutics and other mitigations.”

Jake Tapper: “Why aren’t we going to get control of the pandemic?”

Meadows: “Because it is a contagious virus” #CNNSOTU

This was easy to see coming months ago. When your public and self-image is entirely predicated on "always winning" the only possible response to failure is that the situation is unwinnable.

And of course milking American families for treatments and therapeutics is far more profitable than masks.
 
Group Burns Masks in Delray [Florida], Asks Governor to Override Local Mandate
https://www.foxsports640.com/group-burns-masks-in-delray-asks-governor-to-override-local-mandate/

Some U.S. doctors flee to New Zealand where the coronavirus outbreak is under control and science is respected
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/12/coronavirus-some-us-doctors-flee-to-new-zealand-where-the-outbreak-is-under-control-and-science-is-respected.html
A big part of the appeal for him is that New Zealand has started reopening schools, so Radecki’s kids can return to in-person education. It’s also an opportunity to experience a health-care system with universal coverage. “I’m happy to be working in a system that provides world-class care,” he said. “We spent more in the U.S., and our outcomes aren’t better, so I’ve been watching how they do it.”
 
cwerdna said:
Heard about this on the news earlier tonight:
(Utah) Hospital Over Capacity In 'Unsustainable' Coronavirus Spike.
https://ksltv.com/447201/u-of-u-hospital-over-capacity-in-unsustainable-coronavirus-spike/

Northern Utah hospital filled to capacity as Southern Utah sets another 1-day high for COVID-19 cases
https://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archive/2020/10/17/apc-northern-utah-hospital-filled-to-capacity-as-southern-utah-sets-another-1-day-high-for-covid-19-cases/

A Utah woman was near death, but faced hours of delay because hospitals are strained by COVID-19
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/10/15/utah-coronavirus-cases-up/
Utah’s hospitals prepare to ration care as a record number of coronavirus patients flood their ICUs
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/10/25/with-coronavirus-cases/

El Paso issues curfew to help curb Covid-19 as cases surge and hospitals reach full capacity
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/26/us/el-paso-covid-surge-curfew/index.html
 
cwerdna said:
White House has given up:
https://twitter.com/EricDKoch/status/1320361055923720192?s=20 (about 1.5 minute excerpt of interview w/Mark Meadows on CNN)

The below also report on this.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/25/politics/mark-meadows-controlling-coronavirus-pandemic-cnntv/index.html
https://www.yahoo.com/now/jake-tapper-mark-meadows-pence-coronavirus-control-143125422.html

https://twitter.com/CNNSotu/status/1320360894182862850?s=20 is about 5.5 minutes long and has the above clip but more of it...
Mark Meadows: “We’re not going to control the pandemic, we are going to control the fact that we get vaccines, therapeutics and other mitigations.”

Jake Tapper: “Why aren’t we going to get control of the pandemic?”

Meadows: “Because it is a contagious virus” #CNNSOTU

I don't see this as a change in direction; only opening up another chapter of lies, misdirection, and skirting...
 
^^^
On that note, here we go again:
Trump claims the worsening U.S. coronavirus outbreak is a ‘Fake News Media Conspiracy’ even as hospitalizations rise
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/26/coronavirus-trump-claims-the-worsening-us-outbreak-is-a-fake-news-media-conspiracy-even-as-hospitalizations-rise.html
 
cwerdna said:
cwerdna said:
Heard about this on the news earlier tonight:
(Utah) Hospital Over Capacity In 'Unsustainable' Coronavirus Spike.
https://ksltv.com/447201/u-of-u-hospital-over-capacity-in-unsustainable-coronavirus-spike/

Northern Utah hospital filled to capacity as Southern Utah sets another 1-day high for COVID-19 cases
https://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archive/2020/10/17/apc-northern-utah-hospital-filled-to-capacity-as-southern-utah-sets-another-1-day-high-for-covid-19-cases/

A Utah woman was near death, but faced hours of delay because hospitals are strained by COVID-19
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/10/15/utah-coronavirus-cases-up/
Utah’s hospitals prepare to ration care as a record number of coronavirus patients flood their ICUs
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/10/25/with-coronavirus-cases/
Meanwhile, I did hear about this in Utah over the weekend. Gee... good going!

‘Mom code’: Parents reportedly avoid testing kids to keep Utah COVID-19 numbers artificially low
https://www.abc4.com/news/top-stories/mom-code-parents-reportedly-avoid-testing-kids-to-keep-utah-covid-19-numbers-artificially-low/
 
cwerdna said:
^^^
On that note, here we go again:
Trump claims the worsening U.S. coronavirus outbreak is a ‘Fake News Media Conspiracy’ even as hospitalizations rise
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/26/coronavirus-trump-claims-the-worsening-us-outbreak-is-a-fake-news-media-conspiracy-even-as-hospitalizations-rise.html

On Nov 4., topic will totally change

Indeed. Imagine how many things will get attention when we don't have to listen to his bloviations each day.
 
cwerdna said:
cwerdna said:
cwerdna said:
Heard about this on the news earlier tonight:
(Utah) Hospital Over Capacity In 'Unsustainable' Coronavirus Spike.
https://ksltv.com/447201/u-of-u-hospital-over-capacity-in-unsustainable-coronavirus-spike/

Northern Utah hospital filled to capacity as Southern Utah sets another 1-day high for COVID-19 cases
https://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archive/2020/10/17/apc-northern-utah-hospital-filled-to-capacity-as-southern-utah-sets-another-1-day-high-for-covid-19-cases/

A Utah woman was near death, but faced hours of delay because hospitals are strained by COVID-19
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/10/15/utah-coronavirus-cases-up/
Utah’s hospitals prepare to ration care as a record number of coronavirus patients flood their ICUs
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/10/25/with-coronavirus-cases/
Meanwhile, I did hear about this in Utah over the weekend. Gee... good going!

‘Mom code’: Parents reportedly avoid testing kids to keep Utah COVID-19 numbers artificially low
https://www.abc4.com/news/top-stories/mom-code-parents-reportedly-avoid-testing-kids-to-keep-utah-covid-19-numbers-artificially-low/
Many news sources point to KUTV re: the "mom code". They have https://kutv.com/news/coronavirus/parents-fear-mom-code-will-keep-covid-19-numbers-artificially-low-in-utah-schools including a brief video, which I've watched.

This isn't the first time I've heard of a Trump supporter believing that he's done a good job w/the pandemic. On PBS NewsHour tonight, this staunch supporter at ~7:11 of https://youtu.be/MBvJVrp1SZ4 thought that Trump was very "proactive" and "aggressive" in his approach and didn't see how he could've done things any better. :roll: Seriously? Either this person is way ignorant of how South Korea, Taiwan and New Zealand have (for example) handled it and totally ignored so many things Trump's bungled along the way and still is bungling or they've just become one of the cult members. Or, their "news" sources and others around them have just fed them all sorts of lies and bad information...
 
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/370/6515/408

My cousin died of a "heart attack" that the doctor said looked nothing like a typical heart attack, but does look like COVID19. He was not tested, as this was early in the epidemic. He had no known heart disease, no family history of heart disease, was in good shape and so on.

There is a diverse spectrum of cardiovascular manifestations, ranging from limited necrosis of heart cells (causing injury), to myocarditis, to cardiogenic shock (an often fatal inability to pump sufficient blood). Cardiac injury, as reflected by concentrations of troponin (a cardiac muscle–specific enzyme) in the blood, is common with COVID-19, occurring in at least one in five hospitalized patients and more than half of those with preexisting heart conditions. Such myocardial injury is a risk factor for in-hospital mortality, and troponin concentration correlates with risk of mortality. Furthermore, patients with higher troponin amounts have markers of increased inflammation [including C-reactive protein, interleukin-6 (IL-6), ferritin, lactate dehydrogenase (LDH), and high neutrophil count] and heart dysfunction (amino-terminal pro-B–type natriuretic peptide) (9).

More worrisome than the pattern of limited injury is myocarditis: diffuse inflammation of the heart, usually representing a variable admixture of injury and the inflammatory response to the injury that can extend throughout the three layers of the human heart to the pericardium (which surrounds the heart). Unlike SARS-associated myocarditis, which did not exhibit lymphocyte infiltration, this immune and inflammatory response is a typical finding at autopsy after SARS-CoV-2 infections. Involvement of myocytes, which orchestrate electrical conduction, can result in conduction block and malignant ventricular arrhythmias, both of which can lead to cardiac arrest.

Along with such in-hospital arrythmias, there have been reports of increased out-of-hospital cardiac arrest and sudden death in multiple geographic regions of high COVID-19 spread, such as the 77% increase in Lombardy, Italy, compared with the prior year (10). There have been many reports of myocarditis simulating a heart attack, owing to the cluster of chest pain symptoms, an abnormal electrocardiogram, and increased cardiac-specific enzymes in the blood, even in patients as young as a 16-year-old boy. When there is extensive and diffuse heart muscle damage, heart failure, acute cor pulmonale (right heart failure and possible pulmonary emboli), and cardiogenic shock can occur.
 
Holy cow, as someone at https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/coronavirus.183324/page-1083#post-5100455 posted:
This is not good

Oct 28th State Test Positivity Rates per Johns Hopkins
Track Testing Trends - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center

South Dakota - 43%
Idaho - 35%
Wyoming - 32%
Wisconsin - 28%
Iowa - 26%
Alabama - 25%
Nebraska - 22%
Kansas - 21%
Nevada - 19%
Utah - 18%
I can confirm the test positivity numbers he posted are what https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/tracker/overview says right now...

White House Lists 'Ending' Covid-19 Pandemic As Trump Accomplishment
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/10/27/white-house-lists-ending-covid-19-pandemic-as-trump-accomplishment/ - seems extremely delusional but I guess not that surprising to hear this type of garbage from them...

Interesting... Jared Kushner talking to Bob Woodward back in April about getting the country "back from the doctors" and a "negotiated settlement". There's also talk about "overconfident idiots" in the WH...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2RULWlMkXg


Colleges Turn To Wastewater Testing In An Effort To Flush Out The Coronavirus
https://www.npr.org/2020/10/26/925831847/colleges-turn-to-wastewater-testing-in-an-effort-to-flush-out-the-coronavirus - I listened to this the other day. Don't listen before or while eating.
 
I was eating and it didn't bother me one bit.
But then again I have seen and done things more horrifying than most of yous guys can imagine.
 
Tennessee and Idaho set record highs of average daily deaths
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/29/coronavirus-updates-latest-news-on-the-covid-19-pandemic.html
Tennessee on Wednesday reported a record high of 39 daily deaths, on a seven-day-average, a 91% jump from the prior week, according to a CNBC analysis of data from Johns Hopkins University. The number of average daily deaths in Idaho rose about 77% to eight, the JHU data showed.

Some 16 states saw record-high average current hospitalizations Wednesday. Wyoming’s average hospitalizations rose 62% from last week, New Mexico saw a 50% increase and Nebraska’s week-over-week growth was 24%.
 
cwerdna said:
Heard about https://youtu.be/YqjcVV0YCUc on the news, despite the increasingly dire situation in Idaho. :smh:

Yeah, they are preaching the state constitution and freedom but the message received is allowing the free will of the people to make their own decisions regarding justice which almost always leads to vigilantism.
 
Well oily, Taiwan just went 200 days without a new case. Taiwan, unlike our $hithole country, used scientists, data and a willingness to follow directions to be covid free for 200 days. So following sound advice does work, in countries where people can actually think.
You should try it.
 
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