Baltneu said:
Baltneu said:
queuetee said:
Hi, there is a big change between 2020 vs 2021 Leaf and that is 2021 costs $200 more. That's it!
Nissan gives up on the leaf.
Dual motor, com'on, it's been 10 years, nope
Dump Chadamo for CCS, nope
Littel tweaks to gain few miles, nope
Little acceleration boost, nope
Ok, fine. How about just a new exciting color, nope
Thanks
Seems like even the Plus version is on the low end of many EV cars out there now, in terms of mileage.
You have to wonder if the Leaf is end of life given the Arriya coming next year.
The way Nissan treats the Leaf 2021 looks like Leaf is end of life. Looks like Nissan put everything in Ariya, it's a great good looking SUV. The problem here is it won't be available by 2022. In the meantime, Nissan keeps losing EV market share since many EVs are coming out. Even with Ariya, Nissan will face tough competition, BMW, Benz, VW, Ford, GM all will have their EVs available in 2022. Not to mention the king of EVs, Tesla. Oh well, let see. If people starting to switch to EVs soon, then the market is big enough for all of the companies above. If not, man, they will have a tough time competing.
I think every company is loosing money on EVs but Tesla, but they have to do it since it's the future. Just look at Wallstreet reward EVs stock.
TSLA, NIO. NIO is a startup 3 years old company, last year, it sold less than 40K cars vs GM sold 8 million cars, NIO market cap 90 billion, GM is 60 billion. NIO is the 3rd biggest carmaker in the world in term of value(market cap), just behind Tesla and Toyota. NIO is bigger than Daimler, BMW, VW of the world. It's mind-boggling if you think about it. Clearly, people think EV is the future, noone believes in ICE anymore. The problem I see with traditional ICE makers is they can't focus 100% on EV vs pure-play EV like TSLA and NIO since they still need to put the other half on ICE. When you don't focus 100% on something, you likely to lose the guy that focuses 100%. We saw it happened with the retail industry (sears, jcpenny, macys and ect..) vs Online. Blockbuster vs Netflix. Those failed companies tried to preserve their legacy business while trying venture to new business, at the end, they failed. I don't know how ICE makers are trying preserve their ICE business, but history shows that they will have a tough time succeeding.
Nissan was the one that started mass-produce EVs, Nissan was the one who brought EVs to people first, even before Tesla Model S. Too bad it could not take advantage of being the first mover.
Just like PC in the 80s. IBM started PC, but it got taken over by Microsoft, Intel, Compaq....
