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Re: Dryer Plug Adapter for Leaf 2020 Plus EVSE

Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:28 am

SageBrush wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:01 am
WetEV wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:58 am
SageBrush wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:52 am

YES. And clearly label the receptacle as 'EV only'
Its a good idea, but why EV only?
So that no one tries to use an adapter to run an appliance that requires a neutral
6-30 has no neutral. Hot - Hot - Ground.
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Re: Dryer Plug Adapter for Leaf 2020 Plus EVSE

Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:32 am

WetEV wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:28 am
6-30 has no neutral. Hot - Hot - Ground.
Right, so it already means "240V only, no neutral". And there are other pieces of equipment that use NEMA 6, like some welders, I believe. So I wouldn't label it "EV only." You could label it "240V only" or "no neutral" as a warning for the uninformed, if you like.

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Re: Dryer Plug Adapter for Leaf 2020 Plus EVSE

Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:44 am

wwhitney wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:32 am
WetEV wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:28 am
6-30 has no neutral. Hot - Hot - Ground.
Right, so it already means "240V only, no neutral". And there are other pieces of equipment that use NEMA 6, like some welders, I believe. So I wouldn't label it "EV only." You could label it "240V only" or "no neutral" as a warning for the uninformed, if you like.

Cheers, Wayne
You are asking a lot for the uniformed to understand the significance of '240v', let alone 'no neutral.'

I'll stick with 'EV only' and let the welders figure it out.
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Re: Dryer Plug Adapter for Leaf 2020 Plus EVSE

Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:05 am

SageBrush wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:44 am
You are asking a lot for the uniformed to understand the significance of '240v', let alone 'no neutral.'
Yes, the uninformed with no understanding of 240V vs 120V, with no fear of electricity, willing to buy a random adapter that will mechanically mate their appliance plug with a different receptacle in the wall, may do something unsafe. I don't see how "EV only" is more likely to stop them than "240V only", not sure that "EV" is more widely understood than "240V". In any event any of these labels are optional.

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Re: Dryer Plug Adapter for Leaf 2020 Plus EVSE

Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:30 pm

wwhitney wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:05 am
Yes, the uninformed with no understanding of 240V vs 120V, with no fear of electricity, willing to buy a random adapter that will mechanically mate their appliance plug with a different receptacle in the wall, may do something unsafe.
That's a pretty fair description of the 'dryer receptacle' threads in this forum
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Re: Dryer Plug Adapter for Leaf 2020 Plus EVSE

Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:55 pm

Okay I see what you are all saying. We do have an electric dryer, so it sounds like getting a dedicated outlet just for the car is the best idea. I want to make sure I choose the safest route.
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Re: Dryer Plug Adapter for Leaf 2020 Plus EVSE

Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:45 pm

Yeah either get a dedicated car charger receptacle or use you dryer plug and switch between the ev charger as needed.
Unplugging the dryer constantly gets old after a while and I was smart enough to put the dryer receptacle up higher than the dryer on a dryer stand so it was easy to reach.
I recommend getting an RV receptacle box appropriate for you car charger.
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Re: Dryer Plug Adapter for Leaf 2020 Plus EVSE

Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:49 pm

Oilpan4 wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:45 pm
Unplugging the dryer constantly gets old after a while
It also defeats one of the purposes of an EVSE, which is that a NEMA receptacle of that size wasn't designed for daily plugging and plugging. J1772 is.

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Re: Dryer Plug Adapter for Leaf 2020 Plus EVSE

Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:10 am

With all of this discussion about simply upgrading the plug to a 10-50 "RV" plug and installing a 40 or 50 amp breaker I see no reference to the wiring. You will probably want at least 8 gauge. Maybe 6 depending on the length of the run.
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Re: Dryer Plug Adapter for Leaf 2020 Plus EVSE

Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:44 am

I have an electrician who yesterday installed a new plug for a new dryer I'm getting on Tuesday. He suggested replacing the 30 amp breaker for it with a 60amp and then diverting 20amps to the dryer and the other 40 for the car via a new outlet. That way I can use both the dryer and charge the car at the same time. Considering that, but the manual says the dryer requires 30 amps. So, I wasn't sure what the actual power draw was. Guess the worst case would be just using one at a time.
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