DougWantsALeaf
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Now the other side of the story is that I mind the drivers seat so much. If the wife had really wanted an S, I probably wouldn't have complained to hard; though it would have needed to be pretty well used.
voltamps said:A) The Mach E is 7% more expensive than a VW ID.4.
B) Mach E is slightly roomier inside, and has more cargo volume, with a frunk too (no handy frunk on an ID.4).
C) ID.4 has 8% more passenger volume as a Leaf
D) Ariya will be roomier inside than a Leaf. The exterior dimensions, width, length & height, are almost identical to a Toyota RAV4 after all.
cwerdna said:In my test drive thru their tour event, from the shifter settings I recall, the max regen w/no pedals pressed on ID.4 was MUCH weaker than Bolt in L mode. Bolt in L and BMW i3 (by default, there's no other setting AFAIK) have strong regen w/no pedals pressed.
As might've already been mentioned, the test drives were solo w/nobody else in the car w/you, due to COVID.
cwerdna said:I don't recall any regen paddle on ID.4, unlike my Bolt.
cwerdna said:Besides trying at a dealer, there still are some road show appearances in CA left via https://www.id4roadshow.com/event_agenda. Ones in Nor Cal include Concord, Cupertino and Emeryville. Don't know if they're all full.
DarthPuppy said:From the test drive of the dealer demo, I'm quite impressed.
So, my new ID.4 should be at the dealer by end of this month. I will let you folks know what I think after a couple weeks driving it.
I'm glad to see more good options on the market. I ran out of patience for the Ariya which would have been the next contender. I also liked the XC40 Recharge, but that is priced higher than I'm willing to consider - and I don't consider it to be 25% more car than the ID.4 which is what their pricing would seem to claim. Yeah, the drive was sportier, but I favor efficiency and range and don't drive aggressively so that didn't win over versus the economics. Also, I'm out of patience so not waiting for the AWD version - which I assume will reduce the range some while costing more to boot.
DarthPuppy said:I'm Apple Carplay so I didn't pay attention to whether it supported the others. And I'm happy plugging in by cord - that way the phone charges at same time.
SageBrush said:Then I remembered the hordes of Americans that live in far flung suburbs and drive 100 - 150 miles for their work commute. The car is perfect for that use.
danrjones said:DarthPuppy said:I'm Apple Carplay so I didn't pay attention to whether it supported the others. And I'm happy plugging in by cord - that way the phone charges at same time.
I guess I should have said, does it have wireless android auto/carplay AND wireless charging?
Funny thing is we had the same impression with the Prius Prime, we just kept thinking how much better we liked our '07 Prius, which we'll be selling once we get the Rav4 Prime. Again I'm not a big fan of the large tablet screen where you have to basically control everything as the Prius Prime had. I did like how the Prius used a heat pump heather though, unlike the Ionic PHEV my daughter is seriously looking at to replace her '12 Leaf, the Ionic PHEV has NO! heater in EV mode, only heat comes from the ICE! The Rav4 Prime also has a heat pump heater which was a big selling point for us. Because of this, the Ionic lacks any sort of morning warmup, even when plugged into shore powerDarthPuppy said:I hope the RAV4-Prime works well for you. I was unimpressed when I tested the Prius Prime in 2018, which is why I went with the Honda Clarity for my PHEV. But with a couple more years in development and a better platform in the RAV4, they probably did a better job on this one. The specs present pretty solidly.
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