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Re: First Impressions of '21 Leaf SV

Mon May 10, 2021 11:04 am

I wondered about the brake lights with e-pedal. If just slowing down normally, I'd hoped the brake lights are not activated - going to pay more attention - as people riding the brake pedal with the left foot are quite annoying :mrgreen:
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Re: First Impressions of '21 Leaf SV

Tue May 11, 2021 6:52 am

Marktm wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 11:04 am
I wondered about the brake lights with e-pedal. If just slowing down normally, I'd hoped the brake lights are not activated - going to pay more attention - as people riding the brake pedal with the left foot are quite annoying :mrgreen:
Brake lights are quite reactive. The slant of the hatch glass makes monitoring the lights easy if you are on a dark street. You can see the lights activate thru the rear view mirror quite easily. I also only use E Pedal when slowing quickly or coming to a full stop. But I do use Eco all the time. Eco is the only thing that is constant as I regularly use D N B and E Pedal...with an occasional R thrown in as needed ;)
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Re: First Impressions of '21 Leaf SV

Tue May 11, 2021 7:02 am

Marktm wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 11:04 am
I wondered about the brake lights with e-pedal. If just slowing down normally, I'd hoped the brake lights are not activated - going to pay more attention - as people riding the brake pedal with the left foot are quite annoying :mrgreen:
Regen has to get over 35 kW to activate them, from what I noticed (at night where it is easy to see the brake lights in the rear view mirror) but if the speed is low enough where little regen is left, you get brake lights. As the other poster here said, regular stop n' go driving will make it seem like you are brake crazy to drivers behind you, but I guess it doesn't really matter as long as it doesn't bother you. :lol:

I tried ePedal for a while, but the acceleration hit was too great (for safety reasons I'm sure) and just driving in B mode made the driving experience smoother for me. I have a couple of times in the past used ePedal for long and very slow, stop n' go driving (when a car wreck ahead has everyone advancing one car space at a time slowly). So, it see it more as another mode that can be useful for the Leaf, not something to put down as useless. You never realize how useful all these configurations for driving are until you are without them (in a gas vehicle or another EV with limited driving features).
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Re: First Impressions of '21 Leaf SV

Thu May 13, 2021 6:16 am

knightmb wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 7:02 am
Marktm wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 11:04 am
I wondered about the brake lights with e-pedal. If just slowing down normally, I'd hoped the brake lights are not activated - going to pay more attention - as people riding the brake pedal with the left foot are quite annoying :mrgreen:
Regen has to get over 35 kW to activate them, from what I noticed (at night where it is easy to see the brake lights in the rear view mirror) but if the speed is low enough where little regen is left, you get brake lights. As the other poster here said, regular stop n' go driving will make it seem like you are brake crazy to drivers behind you, but I guess it doesn't really matter as long as it doesn't bother you. :lol:

I tried ePedal for a while, but the acceleration hit was too great (for safety reasons I'm sure) and just driving in B mode made the driving experience smoother for me. I have a couple of times in the past used ePedal for long and very slow, stop n' go driving (when a car wreck ahead has everyone advancing one car space at a time slowly). So, it see it more as another mode that can be useful for the Leaf, not something to put down as useless. You never realize how useful all these configurations for driving are until you are without them (in a gas vehicle or another EV with limited driving features).
35KW? Uhhh... not quite what I observed. "low enough" needs to be defined because I saw regen over 50 KW at 35 mph. I personally drive with minimal brake light activation anyway choosing to shift to B only using E Pedal at the last second. It has created a situation where I notice people creating greater following distances when behind me. Besides, brake lights are nothing but tailgate enabling crutches and i see no reason to make it easier for them ;)
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Re: First Impressions of '21 Leaf SV

Thu May 13, 2021 8:58 am

brakes lights come on at a certain level of deceleration when in E-Pedal measure by G loads....B mode does not activate the lights in the same way and that is why I believe they should only be used in downhill situation...for safety reasons.

There are a few youtube videos on this...here is just one of them https://youtu.be/-GwYWuoQO0g
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Re: First Impressions of '21 Leaf SV

Thu May 13, 2021 9:04 am

Learjet wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 8:58 am
brakes lights come on at a certain level of deceleration when in E-Pedal measure by G loads....B mode does not activate the lights in the same way and that is why I believe they should only be used in downhill situation...for safety reasons.

There are a few youtube videos on this...here is just one of them https://youtu.be/-GwYWuoQO0g
"in the same way?"

safety reasons? Care to elaborate?
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Re: First Impressions of '21 Leaf SV

Thu May 13, 2021 11:29 am

AFAIK, B mode doesn't activate the brake lights at all. It's equivalent to shifting a transmission to a lower gear.
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Re: First Impressions of '21 Leaf SV

Thu May 13, 2021 12:44 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 11:29 am
AFAIK, B mode doesn't activate the brake lights at all. It's equivalent to shifting a transmission to a lower gear.
yes...that is what I'm saying...I would rather have brake lights come on....I don't like getting rear-ended ....brake lights tend to help avoid that :)
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Re: First Impressions of '21 Leaf SV

Thu May 13, 2021 12:47 pm

Learjet wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 12:44 pm
LeftieBiker wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 11:29 am
AFAIK, B mode doesn't activate the brake lights at all. It's equivalent to shifting a transmission to a lower gear.
yes...that is what I'm saying...I would rather have brake lights come on....I don't like getting rear-ended ....brake lights tend to help avoid that :)
LOL!! Brake lights is nothing more than a tool used by tailgaters and actually INCREASE the likelihood of you getting rearended.

Look at the statistics. Have rear end collisions increased with the level of regen in B mode? :lol:
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Re: First Impressions of '21 Leaf SV

Thu May 13, 2021 1:46 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 12:47 pm
Learjet wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 12:44 pm
LeftieBiker wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 11:29 am
AFAIK, B mode doesn't activate the brake lights at all. It's equivalent to shifting a transmission to a lower gear.
yes...that is what I'm saying...I would rather have brake lights come on....I don't like getting rear-ended ....brake lights tend to help avoid that :)
LOL!! Brake lights is nothing more than a tool used by tailgaters and actually INCREASE the likelihood of you getting rearended.

Look at the statistics. Have rear end collisions increased with the level of regen in B mode? :lol:
I think its also been proven that your don't get more regen from B mode.

Not sure if you are being funny are what about the tailgaters...but whatever you want to think....I have no problem with tailgaters...just don't look in the rearview mirror....problem solved...LOL
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