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Re: 2019 leaf no going into gear

Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:59 pm

And to Leftie's point.....computers really do come on almost instantly these days, but it takes time load RAM and do various self-calibrations before they are ready to accept any user commands. On a desktop, if there is a hard disk drive, it has to spin up the disks to operating speed which will take several seconds and then there are also more calibrations done but if the drive has flash instead of a HDD the start-up is almost instantaneous even if it takes a while before the system is loaded and ready.
Thus my use of the term "boot up." I wasn't trying to say that the processor had to have a cup of virtual coffee before it would process, but that the system as a whole took a few seconds to be ready to run the car.
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Re: 2019 leaf no going into gear

Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:52 am

GerryAZ wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:40 pm
I always depress the brake pedal and hit the start button as soon as I get in. I then buckle my seat belt while the LEAF is "booting up". It is ready to accept shift commands by the time I am buckled in. I use a similar approach with internal combustion vehicles by starting the engine first then buckle seat belt, adjust mirrors, etc. That gives the engine a chance to build oil pressure.
What? change my life-long (bad) habit of driving off and THEN putting the seatbelt on? I am waiting for self-installing seat belts... and I suppose I will get used to the Leaf delay, but seriously if an older ICE can engage a starter motor, crank an ICE, get gas thru the injection system and get the ICE runnig, and be put into Drive in 1/3 the time I think Nissan could do some catch-up. For example, how long does it take to get a Tesla going?
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Re: 2019 leaf no going into gear

Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:01 am

I am waiting for self-installing seat belts.
You missed them, in the Nineties. Power shoulder belts that enveloped you.
but seriously if an older ICE can engage a starter motor, crank an ICE, get gas thru the injection system and get the ICE runnig, and be put into Drive in 1/3 the time I think Nissan could do some catch-up.
Modern fuel injection systems are always pressurized.
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Re: 2019 leaf no going into gear

Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:36 am

LeftieBiker wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:01 am
I am waiting for self-installing seat belts.
You missed them, in the Nineties. Power shoulder belts that enveloped you.
My wife had a Ford with those infernal contraptions. God I hated that car!
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Re: 2019 leaf no going into gear

Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:04 am

dmacarthur wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:36 am
We have a 2012 Nissan Juke with push-button starting, it starts the ICE, puts the car in gear, and is driving within a second of pushing. The Leaf simply has to have its little moment of "hurry up and wait", watch the speedo zoom up to 100 and back and then watch the little car icon turn and drive toward you, hold firmly on brake pedal, MAYBE it will actually drive? We all know how fast electrical current flows, somewhere around 186K miles per second, must be some long wires in there! I use these moments to breath deeply- and, I have gotten used to it.
Don't know how it is on the new Leaf models, but the older ones (like I have) can still go into drive the second the I power it on (well I would say it takes at least 1 second after power on) even while it is still doing the screen checks and such before the start sound even finishes. :mrgreen:
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Re: 2019 leaf no going into gear

Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:25 am

dmacarthur wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:52 am
For example, how long does it take to get a Tesla going?
I think the car is ready by the time I sit down but I don't know for sure because like Jerry, I strap in first. I also have set the car to require a second factor PIN I input on the screen before driving is allowed so between these two (PIN and seatbelt), the car is pretty bored by the time I am ready to go.

It's a good 10 seconds from the time my rump hits the seat until the car is rolling. I've watched ICE cars and they are *much* slower for whatever reasons.
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Re: 2019 leaf no going into gear

Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:27 am

Again?

Interested in hearing the resolution for a change...


This not only the first time I have heard of this issue but its so unlikely to be real I have to think that the OP is a troll.
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Re: 2019 leaf no going into gear

Wed May 12, 2021 1:39 am

"The dealer thinks she is the only person in Europe with this problem and nobody else has this issue according to him,"

This happened to me after we picked up our second hand 2016 Tekna. I was in the inside lane of a dual carriageway pulled up at a traffic light 10 minutes from the dealer [Cleevely EV]. Eventually I switched everything off and started again from scratch and the problem cleared. It has now happened several times to me but I am getting quicker at clearing the hitch.

My wife has not had the experience. This may be because she flicks the selector quicker, whereas I move it more slowly and deliberately across and down as in a manual gear box. I am learning to flick the selector down and sideways more quickly.

Yesterday I was parked up off road and on the phone with the car switched on and in P and when I went to move off the car would not go into drive from Park - it went into neutral and same story.

Because of the difference between my wife's experience and mine I assume it is my own operator error.

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Re: 2019 leaf no going into gear

Wed May 12, 2021 7:14 am

The gear selector in my Prius developed the same symptoms of flipping into the wrong gear. It is a plastic part that warps in the heat and then the sensors do not work as intended. I was able to buy a used replacement for $70, and the installation was easy once I figured out how to remove some trim.

I'm not really suggesting that a 2019 LEAF has exactly the same cause, but the malfunction does sound consistent with a faulty gear selector mechanism.
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Re: 2019 leaf no going into gear

Wed May 12, 2021 12:45 pm

knightmb wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:04 am
dmacarthur wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:36 am
We have a 2012 Nissan Juke with push-button starting, it starts the ICE, puts the car in gear, and is driving within a second of pushing. The Leaf simply has to have its little moment of "hurry up and wait", watch the speedo zoom up to 100 and back and then watch the little car icon turn and drive toward you, hold firmly on brake pedal, MAYBE it will actually drive? We all know how fast electrical current flows, somewhere around 186K miles per second, must be some long wires in there! I use these moments to breath deeply- and, I have gotten used to it.
Don't know how it is on the new Leaf models, but the older ones (like I have) can still go into drive the second the I power it on (well I would say it takes at least 1 second after power on) even while it is still doing the screen checks and such before the start sound even finishes. :mrgreen:
Wait. Are you saying it goes into drive all by itself? That would be disconcerting. Definitely not acceptable.
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