DougWantsALeaf
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Re: 2023 US market Leaf

This video with Nissan marketing shows a 60kWh battery in the 2023.

Did they shave the battery in the new Leaf?

https://youtu.be/_Kp78NUWEBc
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Re: 2023 US market Leaf

I think that they are listing the usable capacity. I also think that you give automotive "Journalists" and marketing Critters too much credit for accuracy.
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Re: 2023 US market Leaf

Well, https://usa.nissannews.com/en-US/releas ... his-summer did say 60 kWh. I agree about the above possibility, by why the sudden departure/change?

I wonder what the EPA ranges will be? The 2023 SV Plus ends up having a significantly lower EPA range rating than the 2022 SV Plus, I wonder if Nissan will answer our FAQ on this.

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Re: 2023 US market Leaf

Like cwerdna mentioned, the press release shows 60 kWh and the footnotes show the estimated EPA range for the SV Plus as 215 miles, which is unchanged from the 2022 model year for that trim.

The press release also mentions:
the shapes of the tire deflectors at all four corners, rear under diffuser and rear spoiler have all been modified for better aerodynamics.
So, I guess Nissan tweaked the aerodynamics to perfectly offset the range loss that would otherwise result from a smaller battery pack.
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Re: 2023 US market Leaf

Or maybe the range increase from the 'tweaking' is only seen at speeds above those in the EPA test loop.
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: 2023 US market Leaf

There are some videos from the NY show up too.

60kWh and 212 range looks to be the new Plus specs.

Very curious if the reduction in battery mass for the same pack size helps it cool faster.

Also interesting is that msrp is expected to go down for the 23.
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Re: 2023 US market Leaf

I wonder what the base Leaf looks like, particularly does it get equally spiffy looking wheel covers for the steelies?
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Re: 2023 US market Leaf

Either my vision is going or it is nearly impossible to discern any difference in the rear spoiler styling.
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Re: 2023 US market Leaf

It's waaay different :) I think just the angle of the spoiler changed.

I wonder if the battery reduction is to help provide more distance between Leaf and Ariya as well.as a greater price gap.
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