albalone
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Joined: Fri May 13, 2022 2:09 pm
Delivery Date: 23 Jun 2022
Leaf Number: 561198
Location: Davis, CA

Should I buy this Leaf?

Total newbie here - I'd like to get my first EV and a used Leaf seems perfect. I've been studying this site for weeks and am looking at this car. It's a 2015 SV with 11,000 miles. Here's the LeafSpy report:
AHr = 53.68
SOH = 86.44%, 385.67V
Hx = 77.17%
54 QCs & 930 L1/L2s
Max cell difference = 20mV
71.2% SOC
13.7 kWh
38.22 Ah
50.1 miles to 5%
4.0 mi/kwh
177 GIDs 63.0%
Dash shows 12 bars, but it looks like it's about to lose one bar
A 60 mile range would work for me.
Seller wants $15K

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Great site!
dmacarthur
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Leaf Number: 306556
Location: Vermont

Re: Should I buy this Leaf?

You are now a sitting duck, any number of responses may come in and you need to take them all with a grain of salt:

we had the exact same car with about 18K miles, 12 bar battery, which we sold 2 1/2 years ago for $9K. Liked the car very much, no idea how the current price of $15K compares but it seems high to me since new Leafs have not almost doubled in value..... What does a new 40kW leaf sell for after Federal credits (assuming one qualifies)? Probably $20K or so?
2015 Leaf sold
2019 Leaf Plus S as of 9/30/19
Specialized Hardrock with Bafang midmount 750W
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Stihl battery weedwacker and lawn mower
cwerdna
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Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:31 pm
Delivery Date: 28 Jul 2013
Location: SF Bay Area, CA

Re: Should I buy this Leaf?

You mean 40 kWh?

https://usa.nissannews.com/en-US/releas ... -press-kit Pricing tab has the MSRPs. Add $1,025 destination charge + tax and license to those.

'22 Niro EV
'19 Bolt Premier (bought back by GM)
'13 Leaf SV w/premium (former)
'13 Leaf SV w/QC + LED & premium (lease over)

Please don't PM me with Leaf questions. Just post in the topic that seems most appropriate.
dmacarthur
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Re: Should I buy this Leaf?

You mean 40 kWh?

Yup, that one....
2015 Leaf sold
2019 Leaf Plus S as of 9/30/19
Specialized Hardrock with Bafang midmount 750W
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Stihl battery weedwacker and lawn mower
alozzy
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Joined: Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:25 pm
Delivery Date: 18 Jan 2017
Location: Vancouver, BC
Contact: Website

Re: Should I buy this Leaf?

For a 2015, the pack appears to be in decent condition. Note that 60 miles range in winter is unlikely, if you live in a colder climate. Closer to 50 miles during winter is more likely.
Vancouver, CA owner of a 2013 Ocean Blue SV + QC, purchased 01/2017 in WA
Zencar 12/20/24/30A L1/L2 portable EVSE
1-1/4" Curt #11396 hitch
After market, DIY LED DRLs
LeafSpy Pro + Konnwei KW902 ELM327 BT OBDII dongle
Loving my first BEV :D
albalone
Posts: 4
Joined: Fri May 13, 2022 2:09 pm
Delivery Date: 23 Jun 2022
Leaf Number: 561198
Location: Davis, CA

Re: Should I buy this Leaf?

Thanks for saving me from making a big mistake. A new Leaf S in California is just over $18K with federal and state rebates. And it looks like from this site that the 40 kwh pack is holding up well. It's all good!
DaveinOlyWA
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Leaf Number: 319862
Location: Olympia, WA
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Re: Should I buy this Leaf?

alozzy wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:39 am For a 2015, the pack appears to be in decent condition. Note that 60 miles range in winter is unlikely, if you live in a colder climate. Closer to 50 miles during winter is more likely.
I can show you TWO 2015's that went over 100,000 miles and have better battery stats. ahr loss is 20% on the one above. One guy at 214,000 miles has 22% ahr loss. FYI; should be at 11 bars. SOH is NOT a measure of degradation.

Car is not worth $15,000.
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 25,047 mi, 92.12% SOH
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alozzy
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Re: Should I buy this Leaf?

Sure, there are always going to be better examples, particularly LEAFs in the PNW. The OP is in California though. Good luck finding a 12 bar CA LEAF...

I absolutely agree that it's not worth $15k, but that's the used car market right now. Personally, I wouldn't buy a car right now unless it was an absolute necessity. If I had to buy a car right now, I would buy an older, high mileage Toyota Corolla or Honda Civic (or an Accord) and drive that until the used car market leaves orbit and returns to Earth.
Vancouver, CA owner of a 2013 Ocean Blue SV + QC, purchased 01/2017 in WA
Zencar 12/20/24/30A L1/L2 portable EVSE
1-1/4" Curt #11396 hitch
After market, DIY LED DRLs
LeafSpy Pro + Konnwei KW902 ELM327 BT OBDII dongle
Loving my first BEV :D

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