2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

[mn4az]

So.... in the FB Nissan Leaf Owners Group someone is reporting the following:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/nissan. ... 834528979/

"Has Nissan offered to buy back anybody else’s 30kwh 2016-2017 due to pack degradation? I’ve been waiting 3 months for a new pack with no ETA but now Nissan corporate is offering to buy it back. I’d rather just get a new pack. My guess is that they are trying to reduce the backlog by taking 30kwh Leafs off the road."

I've not seen of a buyback offer anywhere else before this. Has anyone here?

If they'd offer $17.5K or more (dreaming I know!) I'd have to seriously consider it.

[Oils4AsphaultOnly]

So.... in the FB Nissan Leaf Owners Group someone is reporting the following:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/nissan. ... 834528979/

"Has Nissan offered to buy back anybody else’s 30kwh 2016-2017 due to pack degradation? I’ve been waiting 3 months for a new pack with no ETA but now Nissan corporate is offering to buy it back. I’d rather just get a new pack. My guess is that they are trying to reduce the backlog by taking 30kwh Leafs off the road."

I've not seen of a buyback offer anywhere else before this. Has anyone here?

If they'd offer $17.5K or more (dreaming I know!) I'd have to seriously consider it.

That's an interesting proposition, but the battery replacement would essentially make it a used 2022 Leaf S (since older ones have partially degraded batteries already), so I wouldn't take the offer for anything less than $20k. Or am I being too greedy?

[goldbrick]

$17.5k is about what it would be worth to me also for the reason mentioned. I'd probably bite if they made me an offer at that price but I'm still holding out for a new 40kWh pack in my low mileage 2017 S.

[mn4az]

So.... in the FB Nissan Leaf Owners Group someone is reporting the following:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/nissan. ... 834528979/

"Has Nissan offered to buy back anybody else’s 30kwh 2016-2017 due to pack degradation? I’ve been waiting 3 months for a new pack with no ETA but now Nissan corporate is offering to buy it back. I’d rather just get a new pack. My guess is that they are trying to reduce the backlog by taking 30kwh Leafs off the road."

I've not seen of a buyback offer anywhere else before this. Has anyone here?

If they'd offer $17.5K or more (dreaming I know!) I'd have to seriously consider it.

That's an interesting proposition, but the battery replacement would essentially make it a used 2022 Leaf S (since older ones have partially degraded batteries already), so I wouldn't take the offer for anything less than $20k. Or am I being too greedy?

I don't think it's greedy.

$20K for me would be a slam dunk for me. I'd use the funds to purchase a Bolt for hopefully around $20K or a ~$30K Telsa M3 LR with some bumper-to-bumper warranty left like this one: https://www.findmyelectric.com/listings ... wd-175192/

[goldbrick]

So far, the 2017 that I bought hoping to get a warranty battery isn't degrading at all. It's been a fairly cold winter here in CO so we'll see what happens in the future. When I bought it there were 6 bars showing but after the BMS firmware update it went to 10 bars. LSP showed about 75.xx % SOH. When I checked it today, it was 75.91% SOH which I think is the highest I've ever seen it, although it's been in the mid 75% range since the BMS update.

[GreatScott]

An update on my warrantee replacement:

Coming up on 2 months since the dealer put in the order for a new battery from Nissan. Still no word on when the battery will be delivered. There is apparently no way even for the dealer to get this information. Seems like a major communication failing on Nissan. They assure me it's in process, but that's all the info they have.

FYI, just saw a post on reddit a couple days ago from a guy that just got his battery, and it took about 5 1/2 months!

The queue is LONG folks!

[Oils4AsphaultOnly]

An update on my warrantee replacement:

Coming up on 2 months since the dealer put in the order for a new battery from Nissan. Still no word on when the battery will be delivered. There is apparently no way even for the dealer to get this information. Seems like a major communication failing on Nissan. They assure me it's in process, but that's all the info they have.

FYI, just saw a post on reddit a couple days ago from a guy that just got his battery, and it took about 5 1/2 months!

The queue is LONG folks!

Yeah. In case you missed it. My warranty process started in July of last year, and I just got the replacement last month. So I think that's been the slowest one so far, at almost 7 months. Set your expectations accordingly.

[TeaHSD]

Thanks for the update ... I'm down to 67.50 SOH ... hasn't been dropping as fast as I hoped the last few weeks ... gotta get to 66.25% by Feb 2024 ... fingers crossed! Hot san diego summer should hopefully get me there... but once the new 40 kW battery gets ordered, I'll mentally prepare for that 5-7 month wait till the queue clears ....

[GaleHawkins]

So.... in the FB Nissan Leaf Owners Group someone is reporting the following:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/nissan. ... 834528979/

"Has Nissan offered to buy back anybody else’s 30kwh 2016-2017 due to pack degradation? I’ve been waiting 3 months for a new pack with no ETA but now Nissan corporate is offering to buy it back. I’d rather just get a new pack. My guess is that they are trying to reduce the backlog by taking 30kwh Leafs off the road."

I've not seen of a buyback offer anywhere else before this. Has anyone here?

If they'd offer $17.5K or more (dreaming I know!) I'd have to seriously consider it.

I had to deal with the "buy back" threat from the Nissan Memphis Division (USA) January 2020 when our 25K mile 2016 Leaf SL triggered the battery warranty. Since I started my claim with National Leaf Rep I contacted the same Rep and got my car back with a new 40 kWh battery. I had purchased the car in October 2019 for $13.5K from a Nissan dealership and there was someone in the Memphis Division that eas not happy that I was getting a new $13,000 battery at no cost.

That same month Carlos was quoted saying by 2022 Nissan would be in bankruptcy but pandemic funds lengthen their runway.

In short my 50 years of buying and driving Nissans has been a winner in our case. The 1973 Datsun 1200 was my first new car and the 2023 Tesla Model Y dual motor long range was my second new car in my lifetime. The $47.5K price after rebate sealed the deal over the Ariya. I use Autopilot Autosteer every time I drive it and look forward to the next FSD beta.

After 3 years and 19K new miles the 40 kWh battery pack SOH is at 94% which I consider to be good.

[mn4az]

LeafSpy is at 66.43% SOH today. Getting close to getting in queue. For those that have blazed the trail before me: Has anyone received an offer for a free rental car while waiting for the battery pack?

I'm guessing 'no' as a search for 'rental' in this thread didn't suggest a 'yes'

FWIW... Asking because my college age daughter will be home this summer and need to drive the Leaf approximately 62 miles round trip for her summer internship. 44 miles of that being freeway speeds. With ~18 kWh available after the 4th bar drops, I figure she'll need to average 3.5 miles/kWh to avoid turtle mode (barely). If she cannot average 3.5 miles/kWh she'll need to find a way to trickle charge during the day at her internship or stop every day at a DCFC for 5-10 minutes.