How much of a problem is it going to be to get 3-phase 50 kW power to a small community high in the Sierras?
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If the area is anything like the suburb I live in, I could call up the utility provider and pay an extra $5 per month for three-phase power. Granted, I would have to modify my wiring a bit...planet4ever wrote:How much of a problem is it going to be to get 3-phase 50 kW power to a small community high in the Sierras?
Per ECOtality, this is how it works;palmermd wrote:If I wanted to drive from my home to South Lake Tahoe, CA, it would be 147 miles one way. I would love to be able to drive my Leaf to Tahoe some day, but it would require at least one quick charge station along the route. Two would be needed realistically. It would probably sound silly to those who drive ICE cars that I would even consider such a trip and have to stop twice for 15 minute quick charge's, but I would not mind the short breaks.
Looking at the route, It looks like the best places to put the quick charge stations, not only looking at my situation, but also for those coming from the bay area or down from northern california, I would propose that we need one in Sacramento, and one in Pollock Pines.
For the one in Sacramento, what better place to put it to get promotion that on the Capitol Mall. There is a small parking lot right on the circular driveway on the capitol mall that would be a great place to have this station installed, and it would certainly capture the media attention from the capitol building.
Pollock Pines was chosen because it is 58 miles from Sacramento and 47 miles from South Lake Tahoe. Just about the perfect distance needed for the required quick 80% top off of the battery. If I were a business owner in Pollock Pines I would seriously think about investing in a quick charge station. It would certainly be a good way to bring people into my shop. There is a Starbucks and some other stores in a little shopping center right on the highway. The charge station would be a great way to get people to stop in for 15 minutes and buy a cup of coffee or something. Not to mention that they would be able to sell the use of the charge station.
Is there an organization that is working to get quick charge stations installed? What can we do to help promote the installation of such sites? Are there better locations to promote? Getting these installed would require that we show that there is some demand. We need to have everyone on this forum who might use these locations to support the selected locations. If we had enough people saying that they would use it, I think we could get somebody to invest in installing them.
Anyhow, thats my rambling thoughts for the morning.
Commercial hook-ups, at least thru Edison, have a "Demand" charge. It measures your peak requirement and charges you a monthly fee for access to the availability of that amount of power. They need to be able to provide it if you want it, and have to plan capacity and infrastructure to deliver it. The one case I looked into charged ~$400/month for a 41kW demand peak. Even if you use no electricity. Surely a disincentive to property owners..DarkStar wrote:If the area is anything like the suburb I live in, I could call up the utility provider and pay an extra $5 per month for three-phase power. Granted, I would have to modify my wiring a bit...planet4ever wrote:How much of a problem is it going to be to get 3-phase 50 kW power to a small community high in the Sierras?
LEAFguy wrote:The EV Project, though limited geographically currently, has a "suggested stations" area. While your request may fall outside of their current area, it will let a government funded project know of the request for a charging station. ChargePoint America has the Sacramento area in their project. Perhaps you might have better odds there. You can request stations here.
The only thing is, I've suggested some locations on the site (including sacramento locations), and none of them have ever ended up on their map and they never respond to any email. But that is not the real issue. The real issue is that I'm talking about having quick charge stations installed and the EV project is only about level 1 and level 2 charge stations. Is there anywhere to help promote the quick charge stations?KeiJidosha wrote: Per ECOtality, this is how it works;
I agree we need to get involved, or suffer the results.
EV project is actually about L2 and DC quick charge stations. Nothing about L1. Right on their home page they say that they are working on 310 DC quick charge stations and 14k+ L2 stations.palmermd wrote:The real issue is that I'm talking about having quick charge stations installed and the EV project is only about level 1 and level 2 charge stations.
Yes, it may be premature to celebrate having made your last trip to the gas station. It may yet become the fueling station. http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/2 ... nk-DC-Fastdrees wrote:EV project is actually about L2 and DC quick charge stations. Nothing about L1. Right on their home page they say that they are working on 310 DC quick charge stations and 14k+ L2 stations.
drees wrote:EV project is actually about L2 and DC quick charge stations. Nothing about L1. Right on their home page they say that they are working on 310 DC quick charge stations and 14k+ L2 stations.palmermd wrote:The real issue is that I'm talking about having quick charge stations installed and the EV project is only about level 1 and level 2 charge stations.