Corrado5834
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69800 said:Thank all who contributed to my saga.
Thanks to you for sharing your experience, was very useful to me, and good luck on your new journey.
69800 said:Thank all who contributed to my saga.
gmcjetpilot said:Yep I posted another thread and just checked a month ago. $7,670 plus $600 labor = $8,270. My county charges (9.75%) sales tax. it was over $9,000.
I paid $12,000 for my 2015 SV LEAF with 20K miles just shy of 3 years ago. Why would I pay $9K for a battery. Fortuitously I have 11 bars and about +80 mile range on the guess-O-meter. It is fine for local errands and commute. It is a 2nd car so no big deal.
The resale on these are so low (espcially in my Mid-Atlantic zip code. EV driving is not a thing but BIG trucks and SUV's are/ God Bless America.
Anyway, my other car is a 2010 VW TDI (turbo direct injection) Diesel JSW (Jetta Sportwagan) and gets 50 MPG on the highway. Yes I had the Mod done and VW gave me $6000 on top of that plus 4 year 40K mile warranty on engine. I am happy and the VW is a keeper. I had an unexpected trip to Nashville 3 hours away (about 200 miles). I drove out and back same day on one tank with 300 miles to spare on my tank... NO EV HAS 700 MILE RANGE... The VW is not made for short trips... so when it is time to go somewhere, the VW is my ride. Going to the store, to work sometimes (40 mile RT) I'll take the LEAF. However the cost of owning two cars (tabs, insurance) is really not cost effective. Am I saving the planet driving a LEAF? No and no one is. The cost in energy and resources to make it, energy to charge it, and waste of short life span of battery is not a winner. We can only hope for President AOC in 2024 will throw us all into the dark ages as all petroleum is banned. Of course there will be no electricity as renewable energy can't even come close to meeting demand. I can't wait for the all electric airliners. :mrgreen:
To see just how ridiculous that price is, compare to a lightly used 62 kWh Bolt for ~ $16k. That is the entire car, not just the superior battery with TMS. Oh ... and it comes with a multi-year warranty and use of the CCS network.DaveinOlyWA said:Look at 3rd party battery upgrades. You can get a 62 kwh pack installed for $14 K.
SageBrush said:To see just how ridiculous that price is, compare to a lightly used 62 kWh Bolt for ~ $16k. That is the entire car, not just the superior battery with TMS. Oh ... and it comes with a multi-year warranty and use of the CCS network.DaveinOlyWA said:Look at 3rd party battery upgrades. You can get a 62 kwh pack installed for $14 K.
DougWantsALeaf said:If a 2017/18 Bolt can be had for 18K, that should push a 2018 Leaf used price to 15K or less given the range difference. It feels like they are still trying to get a bit more.
That sounds about right to me, and then where does it leave the 3rd party battery replacement industry for early LEAFs ?coleafrado said:2018 Leafs can't get devalued below $10k soon enough.
'A 100x better value' is an exaggeration to be sure but it is not just CCS, it is also a battery with TMS. Those are car defining differences.goldbrick said:I wouldn't say a Bolt is hundred times better for those who don't QC and prefer a more comfortable car.
A $5k (installed) 40 kWh battery replacement for Gen1 LEAFs that is sanctioned and warrantied for 5 years would be a game changer for degraded LEAFs. Unfortunately I don't see it anywhere on the horizon. Maybe in a couple of years ?DougWantsALeaf said:40s on the other hand, should be much more affordable, especially over time. The battery already shouldn't be more than 5-6K now, less from a salvage car. A solid 100 winter, 140-150 summer miles still could be quite useful range for many drivers.
SageBrush said:To see just how ridiculous that price is, compare to a lightly used 62 kWh Bolt for ~ $16k. That is the entire car, not just the superior battery with TMS. Oh ... and it comes with a multi-year warranty and use of the CCS network.DaveinOlyWA said:Look at 3rd party battery upgrades. You can get a 62 kwh pack installed for $14 K.
SageBrush said:To see just how ridiculous that price is, compare to a lightly used 62 kWh Bolt for ~ $16k. That is the entire car, not just the superior battery with TMS. Oh ... and it comes with a multi-year warranty and use of the CCS network.DaveinOlyWA said:Look at 3rd party battery upgrades. You can get a 62 kwh pack installed for $14 K.
lolLeftieBiker said:The Gen I Bolt may not be crude, but it is a bit coarse, from the ride on anything but great pavement to the controls. It is also a car in which you have to choose between carrying cargo and carrying more than one passenger.
Found it sad that GM made some key creature comfort trade-off on the Bolt. I've had other GM products over the years with similar trade-off so not surprised and don't believe Bolt is substandard relative to other GM product. I could have lived with the short wheelbase choppy ride and lack of a heat pump (given the battery size). The deal breaker for me was the lack of adaptive cruise control, cheap-cheap-cheap plastic interior everywhere you touch, and horendous front seats. Decision was sealed with the left hip charlie-horse when stepping out of the driver's seat. Find that a redeeming quality of Nissan products including LEAF is execution of the creature comforts.DougWantsALeaf said:With the huge range boost over our 2013 Leaf in 2018, I really hoped we would have liked the Bolt. But as said, we felt the ride was coarser and less refined. The reduced rear cargo worried us, as we use the Leaf as our costco hauler, and it would only work if we didn't have any of our 3 kids in tow.
GM did a really good job in the battery, and this might be the best value for many drivers. If you like the ride and interior, go for it.
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