As of 2017, 17,700 CHAdeMO chargers, 775,000 CHAdeMO compatible cars worldwide

[91040]

Wondering why there seems to be no been no buzz about this on the forum?
1/14/13 Plug In Cars

Nissan Promises Dealership-Based EV Quick Charging
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Nissan will use its own CHAdeMo-based Quick Charge equipment at dealerships.
“Three or four years ago, it was not part of the business plan to do our own
...

 

[TomT]

There's been some discussion here but I think a number are taking a wait and see attitude...

Wondering why there seems to be no been no buzz about this on the forum?
1/14/13 Plug In Cars

Nissan Promises Dealership-Based EV Quick Charging
<http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://www.plugincars.com/nissan-promi
ses-dealership-based-ev-quick-charging-126089.html&ct=ga&cad=CAcQARg
AIAAoATAAOABAyd3QhwVIAVgBYgVlbi1VUw&cd=ZhXKk2t3Qkk&usg=AFQjCNFCbLQEw
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Nissan will use its own CHAdeMo-based Quick Charge equipment at dealerships.
“Three or four years ago, it was not part of the business plan to do our own
...

 

[TonyWilliams]

They will release all the dealerships as soon as the dealerships invited either accept or decline the offer.

 

[palmermd]

They will release all the dealerships as soon as the dealerships invited either accept or decline the offer.

what if they just hit the map button instead of the ok to accept? Is that like the Ignore button on Facebook?

 

[cwerdna]

From https://www.facebook.com/groups/BayLeafs/permalink/444280305629636/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; there are links to http://finance.yahoo.com/news/volkswagen-group-america-eaton-unveil-130000429.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and https://www.facebook.com/groups/239198747743/permalink/10151376452982744/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; re: Frankenplug chargers.

So, I guess there are at least 2 in the US now.

 

[scottf200]

From https://www.facebook.com/groups/BayLeafs/permalink/444280305629636/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; there are links to http://finance.yahoo.com/news/volkswagen-group-america-eaton-unveil-130000429.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and https://www.facebook.com/groups/239198747743/permalink/10151376452982744/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; re: Frankenplug chargers.
So, I guess there are at least 2 in the US now.

I didn't recall the CCS name. Sounds like VW is fully on board as is BWM per your 3rd link.

The CCS charge point meets the approved Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) standard for plug-in electric vehicles. The system utilizes a single-port and integrates one-phase AC charging, fast three-phase AC charging, DC charging at home and ultra-fast DC charging at public stations. The efficient design optimizes customer ease-of-use with a single standard that will allow EV customers to not only charge at most existing stations, but also improve customer convenience by offering a single source for various charging levels.

"The Volkswagen Group is fully committed to supporting the worldwide introduction of the Combined Charging System standard," said Dr. Rudolpf Krebs, Chief Officer for Electric Traction, Volkswagen Group. "To fuel the market success of electric vehicles, a standardized infrastructure is urgently needed to provide customers with entry into this new drive technology."
"In comparison to other charging standards, CCS offers advantages because it requires only one cut out in the vehicle body, thus reducing costs and making it easier for customers to handle charging," said Dr. Volkmar Tanneberger, Head of Electrics/Electronics Development, Volkswagen AG. "Moreover, CCS enables optimal data communication and can be quickly adapted to potential smart grid concepts in the future. With the ability to handle up to 86 kW, CCS is the most powerful charging system available."

"Eaton's collaboration with Volkswagen Group on the development and validation of the Combined Charging System demonstrates our commitment to the introduction of this new standard," said John Wirtz, business unit manager, Electric Transportation Infrastructure, Eaton. "Our development and implementation of the CCS Quick Charger supports our on-going efforts to move this market forward."

 

[edatoakrun]

From https://www.facebook.com/groups/BayLeafs/permalink/444280305629636/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; there are links to http://finance.yahoo.com/news/volkswagen-group-america-eaton-unveil-130000429.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and https://www.facebook.com/groups/239198747743/permalink/10151376452982744/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; re: Frankenplug chargers.
So, I guess there are at least 2 in the US now.

I didn't recall the CCS name. Sounds like VW is fully on board as is BWM per your 3rd link....

Yes, SAE certainly seems to be the preferred DC standard for those vehicle manufactures who do not intend to sell many BEVs in the USA...

Why don't you start a thread for SAE charge locations, worldwide?

Sounds like the count is somewhere between 0 and 2, as of today.

 

[91040]

Posted on 3D Car Shows, 1/22:

CHAdeMO-standard electric vehicle quick-chargers double in just one year, surpassing the 2,000 milestone to build range confidence to the world’s EV drivers

Dramatic growth in quick-charge installations in Europe and US in just 12 months
Japan from 833 to 1,381
Europe from 158 to 601
U.S. from 12 to 154
Overall CHAdeMO quick-chargers double in one year to over 2,000… and will more than double again in 2013

http://3d-car-shows.com/2013/nissan-growth-of-quick-charge-infrastructure-boosts-electric-vehicle-practicality/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[edatoakrun]

Posted on 3D Car Shows, 1/22:

CHAdeMO-standard electric vehicle quick-chargers double in just one year, surpassing the 2,000 milestone to build range confidence to the world’s EV drivers

Dramatic growth in quick-charge installations in Europe and US in just 12 months
Japan from 833 to 1,381
Europe from 158 to 601
U.S. from 12 to 154
Overall CHAdeMO quick-chargers double in one year to over 2,000… and will more than double again in 2013

http://3d-car-shows.com/2013/nissan-growth-of-quick-charge-infrastructure-boosts-electric-vehicle-practicality/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Even more significant that the number of chargers, IMO, is the number of BEVs on the road capable of using them:

...Currently there are more than 70,000 CHAdeMO-compatible electric vehicles across the world from 19 CHAdeMO-compatible models including the Nissan LEAF, Peugeot Partner Electric, Mitsubishi i-MiEV, Citroën C-Zero, and Toyota EQ...

 

[TRONZ]

Yes, SAE certainly seems to be the preferred DC standard for those vehicle manufactures who do not intend to sell many BEVs in the USA...

Why don't you start a thread for SAE charge locations, worldwide?

Sounds like the count is somewhere between 0 and 2, as of today.

Nice! :lol:

 

[scottf200]

The European Commission Wants More Charging Stations For Europe, Lots More Charging Stations
http://insideevs.com/the-european-commission-wants-more-charging-stations-for-europe-lots-more-charging-stations/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Under this new proposal, all member countries would have a set minimum amout of electric charging points to build out, and that those recharging points would all have a common plug, which the Commission refers to as a 'Type 2' plug [CCS - DC J1772 Combo].

In response, the CHAdeMO association has issued a statement wanting to be included in the fast-charging portion of the program, as their CHAdeMO standardization was excluded in the DC fast charging specifications:

'We request the European Commission consider a dual charging system for DC fast charging with CHADeMO and CCS (combined charging system) that will allow use by the majority of current and future electric vehicles. From a cost point of view, there are significant commonalities between the two devices of more than 80%, with the only difference relating to communication protocol and charging gun.

The adoption of a technology-neutral approach not only reflects market realities but also ensures that multi-standard Combo2/CHAdeMO DC chargers are deployed. If this path is taken, Europe will leverage significant investment already made in the member states, and will be able to build a quicker and strong zero-emissions transportation network.'

 

[edatoakrun]

The number of CHAdeMO DC Quick charger installed up to today is 2140.
-- (Japan 1381 Europe 601 USA 154 Others 4) last update 2013.01.22

http://www.chademo.com/wp/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And AFDC now shows 155 existing and 163 planned electric stations
in the United States.

http://www.afdc.energy.gov/locator/stations/#results?utf8=%E2%9C%93&location=&filtered=true&fuel=ELEC&private=true&owner=all&payment=all&ev_dc_fast=true&radius_miles=5" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[scottf200]

The European Commission Wants More Charging Stations For Europe, Lots More Charging Stations
http://insideevs.com/the-european-commission-wants-more-charging-stations-for-europe-lots-more-charging-stations/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Another article with various comments:
CHAdeMO 'disappointed' by European Commission's fast charging decision
http://green.autoblog.com/2013/01/28/chademo-disappointed-european-commissions-fast-charging/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[cwerdna]

Yes, SAE certainly seems to be the preferred DC standard for those vehicle manufactures who do not intend to sell many BEVs in the USA...

Why don't you start a thread for SAE charge locations, worldwide?

Sounds like the count is somewhere between 0 and 2, as of today.

Nice! :lol:

Ok, I've started http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=11679" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; to track Frankenplug charger counts. I originally (incorrectly?) thought this was supposed to track all DC fast charger counts and sorta be a CHAdeMO vs. Frankenplug vs. others.

 

[DaveinOlyWA]

"Others; 4" needs a bit of review

http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/21/estonia-officially-opens-nationwide-ev-fast-charging-network/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.abb.com/cawp/seitp202/61df2f8f8c7d00a6c1257b18002d5e3c.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The network of 165 web-connected direct current (DC) fast chargers, supplied and built by ABB, was officially opened on Wednesday. The chargers are installed in urban areas with more than 5,000 inhabitants, and on major roads throughout the country, creating the highest concentration of DC chargers in Europe. On highways, the chargers are never more than 60km apart, making it possible for electric vehicles to travel anywhere within the Baltic state without running out of power.

Unlike conventional residential power outlets, which take up to eight hours to charge an electric vehicle, ABB’s Terra 51 DC fast chargers need only 15-30 minutes to do the job. The fast-charging stations comply with the CHAdeMO charging standard and can be used for charging vehicles with DC of up to 50 kilowatts (kW) as well as with alternating current (AC) of up to 22kW. The methods can be used simultaneously, if necessary.

**edit** oh maybe Estonia is part of the Europe total. my bad. thought it was Asia

 

[edatoakrun]

The number of CHAdeMO DC Quick charger installed up to today is 2445.
-- (Japan 1672 Europe 601 USA 160 Others 12) last update 2013.02.28

http://www.chademo.com/wp/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The AFDC USA map now shows 166 operational, of which 125 are "public", and that there are 175, including those "planned".

http://www.afdc.energy.gov/locator/stations/#results?utf8=%E2%9C%93&location=&filtered=true&fuel=ELEC&private=true&owner=all&payment=all&ev_dc_fast=true&radius_miles=5" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[edatoakrun]

Yes, SAE certainly seems to be the preferred DC standard for those vehicle manufactures who do not intend to sell many BEVs in the USA...

Why don't you start a thread for SAE charge locations, worldwide?

Sounds like the count is somewhere between 0 and 2, as of today.

Nice! :lol:

Ok, I've started http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=11679" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; to track Frankenplug charger counts. I originally (incorrectly?) thought this was supposed to track all DC fast charger counts and sorta be a CHAdeMO vs. Frankenplug vs. others.

My previous sarcasm was not an objection to posting the SAE and Tesla numbers on this thread, if anyone else wants to try to keep track of them.

Also, if you notice an increase in CHAdeMO charge sites before I do, in either of the two lists/maps I've been citing, or if you believe there are other more accurate sources (including yourselves) please also post those results here.

 

[walterbays]

Why don't you start a thread for SAE charge locations, worldwide?

Sounds like the count is somewhere between 0 and 2, as of today.

But on one measure SAE is probably far ahead of CHAdeMO. CHAdeMO chargers are today installed in only a small proportion of locations in which they ought to be present in order to fully serve today's fleet of CHAdeMO capable cars. By contrast, if they installed SAE fast chargers on the show floors of the Los Angeles Auto Show, the Detroit Auto Show, and the New York Auto Show, they would have 100% of what is needed to serve the fleet of SAE capable cars for the foreseeable future. :twisted:

 

[TonyWilliams]

... if they installed SAE fast chargers on the show floors of the Los Angeles Auto Show, the Detroit Auto Show, and the New York Auto Show, they would have 100% of what is needed to serve the fleet of SAE capable cars for the foreseeable future. :twisted:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

:mrgreen:

 

[Elephanthead]

I wish gas stations would install CHAdeMO QCs and charge me $10 a half an hour. I would love to take my leaf on weekend trips. I can stop and take a constitutional break for at least 20 minutes with a borrowed newspaper. If they rented it 4 times a day on average I think they would eventually get payback. They don't make anything selling gas but they would probably make 12 bucks off my drink purchases for me and the kids. Sometimes the kids weasel in a $10 toy that cost the store 20 cents. That is more profit then 500 gallons of gas.