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By KATIE MORITZ
JUNEAU EMPIRE

Robert Barker is one of a small subset of Juneauites: electric car owners. He avoids gas stations by plugging in his car at home — along with about 11 other electric vehicle owners in town. This number is growing, Alaska Electric Light & Power Co.’s Alec Mesdag said, and the city recently received a grant that will help install about a half-dozen public charging ports to make the vehicles more viable.

The Juneau Community Foundation, partnered with the City and Borough of Juneau, recently won a $25,000 Bloomberg Award for Local Sustainability Matching Fund, according to a foundation news release. The money will go toward placing electric vehicle charging stations around town, and local organizations and businesses will contribute matching funds to the cause. These plug-in locations should start becoming available in early 2014.

The grant comes at a time when electric cars are picking up steam in Juneau, said Mesdag, co-chairman of the Juneau Economic Development Council’s Renewable Energy Cluster. AEL&P currently offers a reduced rate on kilowatt hours for people who charge their electric cars at night. Right now, eight of the program’s 10 available slots are filled, and the last six electric car owners enrolled only in the past six weeks — a significant jump, he said.

“I’ve been amazed at the increase,” Mesdag said.

Barker owns a Nissan Leaf, one of the two types of fully electric vehicles driven in Juneau, the other being the Chevrolet Volt. These cars skip the gas pump entirely, a major selling point for Barker, who was spending $450 per month filling up his two cars before he got the Leaf in July. Electric cars don’t need oil changes and have zero tailpipe emissions.

“I don’t miss going to the gas station,” Barker said.

Barker and his family live out the road and were using a lot of gas “ferrying kids in and out, going to soccer club,” he said. “Now this is our main car — we’ll drive this first before the other one.”

According to Barker’s calculations, it costs about 1 cent per day to run the Leaf. His last AEL&P bill showed it cost $14 to charge the car for one month. Although the car cost about $30,000, including shipping costs, the gas savings are worth it, he said.

Owning an electric vehicle in a place with a limited road system is ideal, Mesdag said, but it’s not without its complications. In Juneau, Leaf and Volt owners are split almost 50-50, Mesdag said. But the Volt is the only electric vehicle available for sale in the city. Leaf owners had to have theirs ferried in; there is no Nissan dealer in Juneau.

This poses a maintenance problem, Mesdag said. The Leaf needs a yearly engine check to retain its warranty. With no dealer, and, thus, no certified electric vehicle mechanic to work on the cars, Leaf owners might be out of luck when it comes to the mandatory checkup, as well as any extra problems that might pop up. This has been a deterrent for potential electric vehicle owners, Mesdag said.

“That may wind up being a little bit of an issue,” he said. “That’s something we partially hope to address with the grant.”

The Renewable Energy Cluster has tossed around a few ideas for circumventing this problem, Mesdag said, including pooling resources to fly in a Nissan electric vehicle technician periodically or partnering with Mendenhall Auto Center, a local Chevrolet dealer that sells and services Volts. With the right equipment, the dealership could also perform engine checks on the Leaf, he said.

Mendenhall Auto Center President Steve Allwine said his Chevrolet dealership has had to do minimal maintenance on Volts since it began selling them a year ago. The dealership has five specially trained technicians certified to work on electric vehicles. Although his company is focused on servicing its own products, he wouldn’t be opposed to taking a look at a Leaf in need, he said.

“We invest quite a bit of money in technician training” on many types of vehicles, Allwine said.

He said he’s seen an increasing interest in the Volt since its release, and Mendenhall Auto Center keeps one or two in stock at all times. AEL&P was the first to buy an electric car from the dealership, he said. Chevy is “building them sparingly” but Allwine said he expects to see more and more on Juneau’s roads.

Although “in our environment, people still need trucks,” Allwine said he’s gotten overwhelmingly positive feedback from friends and customers who own the Volt, no matter the season.

“Because the car’s not excessively light, it didn’t have any problems in the winter,” he said.

Barker said he’s keeping his trusty 1990 Honda Civic on hand in case the Leaf doesn’t fare well in cold weather, but he has high hopes. He said he drives his Leaf about 45 to 50 miles per day, and charging at home after work has provided all the juice he needs to make it around town. However, he said installing charging stations at busy locations like Fred Meyer and Walmart would allow drivers to get a quick boost while shopping.

Mesdag said installing plug-ins will be easiest if it’s done in tandem with new construction projects. The city doesn’t yet know where the charging stations will be installed, he said, but potential locations are the Marine Parking Garage downtown, Eagle Beach, Sandy Beach and Eaglecrest Ski Area — places people hang around for a while.

He said Juneau’s electric car community is passionate about their vehicles, mostly because of the convenience they provide. Owning an electric car has caused Barker to get involved with the Renewable Energy Cluster and the charging station installations, he said.

“Every time you leave the house you essentially have a full tank,” Mesdag said. “The folks who own these vehicles love them, absolutely love them.”

• Contact reporter Katie Moritz at 523-2294 or at [email protected].

Sounds like I need to get my application for the special charging rate in soon; I fly down to Seattle to pick up my Leaf in a week! :cool:

For those who don't know about Juneau, our road system goes a grand total of 40 miles north of downtown. I live about 12 miles from downtown, meaning a Leaf can get from my house to as far as I can physically drive and back. Electric cars are perfect here not only because of that range limitation but also because all of our electricity is hydroelectric (read: cheap and stable) and our temperatures are very moderate (somewhat cooler year-round than Seattle). An EVSE at Eagle Beach, about mile 30, would put a total end to any range anxiety in town.
 
Barker owns a Nissan Leaf, one of the two types of fully electric vehicles driven in Juneau, the other being the Chevrolet Volt.
:roll:


According to Barker’s calculations, it costs about 1 cent per day to run the Leaf. His last AEL&P bill showed it cost $14 to charge the car for one month.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

So, either that's about 0.1kWh, worth, say 400 yards per day (why not walk!?!?), or otherwise that's meant to be $1/day, in which case how did he end up with $14 pm?

There are clearly 3 types of EV car owner - those that can count, and those that can't!
 
With a road system that small, it seems that just about every point is within round trip LEAF range of any other point, so I don't really get the need for a bunch of public charging stations. Wouldn't everyone just recharge at home?

Reminds me a little of our situation here in Eugene, OR. There are a bunch of L2 charging stations in town, mostly clustered in the downtown area, but since 99% of the local population lives within 20 miles of downtown, there is almost never a reason to use them (at $1/hour, it is much cheaper to recharge at home than at a public station.) So, they just sit there unused. I drive into town 3 or 4 times a week and I've never had to use one.
 
Those same half-dozen or so people spout their drivel on every article, references to gov't or not. Fully 1/3 of the people in town work for the State government (including my wife and myself), plus there's a sizable Federal presence due to this being the Capitol. There's also a decent number of Coast Guard/NOAA people and two different marine research facilities run by universities.

As for the charging stations, they would be pretty useful for somebody who would, say, want to go skiing out the road at Eagle Beach (they groom the trails there) in the afternoon and go up to Eaglecrest for some afternoon/night downhill skiing. Yes, it's possible to go pretty much everywhere on one charge, but that's only once. From our house to the ski hill is about 25 miles each way, and we often find ourselves going back downtown for dinner after going home and showering. A charging station could come in handy for that at least once a week.

Heck, we attend church at a shrine on the beach at mile 22 every Sunday in the summer. A charging station there would allow a Volt to get there and back from downtown without using gasoline. I'm planning to pitch the idea that they should install a charging station as soon as we get our Leaf.
 
donald said:
Barker owns a Nissan Leaf, one of the two types of fully electric vehicles driven in Juneau, the other being the Chevrolet Volt.
:roll:


According to Barker’s calculations, it costs about 1 cent per day to run the Leaf. His last AEL&P bill showed it cost $14 to charge the car for one month.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

So, either that's about 0.1kWh, worth, say 400 yards per day (why not walk!?!?), or otherwise that's meant to be $1/day, in which case how did he end up with $14 pm?

There are clearly 3 types of EV car owner - those that can count, and those that can't!

It's a typo! It's 1.5 cents per MILE in real life. :roll:
 
ObjetDart said:
With a road system that small, it seems that just about every point is within round trip LEAF range of any other point, so I don't really get the need for a bunch of public charging stations. Wouldn't everyone just recharge at home?

Reminds me a little of our situation here in Eugene, OR. There are a bunch of L2 charging stations in town, mostly clustered in the downtown area, but since 99% of the local population lives within 20 miles of downtown, there is almost never a reason to use them (at $1/hour, it is much cheaper to recharge at home than at a public station.) So, they just sit there unused. I drive into town 3 or 4 times a week and I've never had to use one.


Most days we can just charge at home, but sometimes we deviate from our normal driving and have to take the kids back into town (we live 25 miles from downtown and 15 miles from most of the places we go) or go out to dinner or whatever. With the cold weather, heater usage cutting down our range, we would probably charge at a public charging station once or twice a week. We actually did use the one at the electric company the other day, but more to say we did than that we really NEEDED to. Not much to do there though...good thing it was Saturday night. We haven't "parked" for a long time. :lol:
 
I hear that in places like Alaska there are regular 120 volt outlets in many lots for block heaters. Have you ever used them for a trickle charge and or to keep the battery warm via charging?
 
donald said:
According to Barker’s calculations, it costs about 1 cent per day to run the Leaf. His last AEL&P bill showed it cost $14 to charge the car for one month.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

So, either that's about 0.1kWh, worth, say 400 yards per day (why not walk!?!?), or otherwise that's meant to be $1/day, in which case how did he end up with $14 pm?

There are clearly 3 types of EV car owner - those that can count, and those that can't!

Clearly, his months are 1400 days long. I had a month like that once.
 
P71VIC said:
I hear that in places like Alaska there are regular 120 volt outlets in many lots for block heaters. Have you ever used them for a trickle charge and or to keep the battery warm via charging?

Juneau doesn't get cold enough for that. I'm sure you could do that, but I'm not sure you would want a LEAF in a much colder climate than this. The heat needs would limit your range too much. I'd love to hear how they do in Anchorage or Fairbanks.
 
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