countryleaf
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Does anyone know how to turn on the fog lights without having the headlights on? I would like to be able to run with the fog lights on alone during the day.
Thanks.
David
Thanks.
David
I don't know about Washington State, but that's illegal in California:countryleaf said:I would like to be able to run with the fog lights on alone during the day.
Ray24403. (a) A motor vehicle may be equipped with not more than two foglamps that may be used with, but may not be used in substitution of, headlamps.
planet4ever said:I don't know about Washington State, but that's illegal in California:countryleaf said:I would like to be able to run with the fog lights on alone during the day.
Ray24403. (a) A motor vehicle may be equipped with not more than two foglamps that may be used with, but may not be used in substitution of, headlamps.
That's because the headlamps provide the best way for others to see YOU, and that's their primary function.padamson1 said:... As anybody who drives often in the fog knows, headlights make visibility worse, good amber fog lamps low to the ground with no headlights provides the best forward visibility. Unfortunately just about every state in the US requires that the fog lamps only function when the headlights are active (stupid). ...
Good Point. Although I personally don't think the the primary function of headlights is for others to see me Maybe when it is foggy, headlights end up serving that purpose as it is more difficult to pick up other vehicles approaching with the reduced visibility. However amber fog lamps doesn't exactly make a vehicle invisible, the question is do they make it too hard to see oncoming vehicles in the fog?davewill said:That's because the headlamps provide the best way for others to see YOU, and that's their primary function.padamson1 said:... As anybody who drives often in the fog knows, headlights make visibility worse, good amber fog lamps low to the ground with no headlights provides the best forward visibility. Unfortunately just about every state in the US requires that the fog lamps only function when the headlights are active (stupid). ...
padamson1 said:Good Point. Although I personally don't think the the primary function of headlights is for others to see me Maybe when it is foggy, headlights end up serving that purpose as it is more difficult to pick up other vehicles approaching with the reduced visibility. However amber fog lamps doesn't exactly make a vehicle invisible, the question is do they make it too hard to see oncoming vehicles in the fog?davewill said:That's because the headlamps provide the best way for others to see YOU, and that's their primary function.padamson1 said:... As anybody who drives often in the fog knows, headlights make visibility worse, good amber fog lamps low to the ground with no headlights provides the best forward visibility. Unfortunately just about every state in the US requires that the fog lamps only function when the headlights are active (stupid). ...
Obviously the DOT in most states believe that it does, especially when they have to take into consideration many people have the bad habit of driving with their windows fogged up when its foggy outside and fail to slow down even when they can't see clearly. I have observed that headlights are a hindrence for navigation from the driver's perspective, so I continue to believe that when driving in the fog, it's better to use fog lights with no headlights. Unfortunately that's illegal, so I have to be nearly blind when driving in serious fog in order to drive legally.
planet4ever said:I don't know about Washington State, but that's illegal in California:countryleaf said:I would like to be able to run with the fog lights on alone during the day.
Ray24403. (a) A motor vehicle may be equipped with not more than two foglamps that may be used with, but may not be used in substitution of, headlamps.
KellyROlsen said:planet4ever said:I don't know about Washington State, but that's illegal in California:countryleaf said:I would like to be able to run with the fog lights on alone during the day.
Ray24403. (a) A motor vehicle may be equipped with not more than two foglamps that may be used with, but may not be used in substitution of, headlamps.
I don't know that this is a correct interpretation of the California law. The statute that is quoted regarding fog lamps uses the words, "substitution of headlamps."
There is no law requiring the use of headlamps in the day, therefor, the use of fog lamps during the day would not be considered substituting headlamps. My interpretation is that the use of fog lamps only are not prohibited during daytime use in California.
I too would like to be able to turn just the fog lamps on for day use.
The fuse in position F10 on the Power Distribution Module, is moved to the unused position F20.rawhog said:Soldering a wire between these two points is easy enough. But what do you mean by "move F10 to F20"?
pchilds said:The fuse in position F10 on the Power Distribution Module, is moved to the unused position F20.rawhog said:Soldering a wire between these two points is easy enough. But what do you mean by "move F10 to F20"?
pchilds said:How to convert 2011/12 fog lights to DRLs.
Remove the Power Distribution Module, move F10 to F20 position.
Solder a wire from F10 to F20 as in picture below.
Now the fog lights are on anytime the car is on.
However amber fog lamps doesn't exactly make a vehicle invisible, the question is do they make it too hard to see oncoming vehicles in the fog?
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