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markpp

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1st part of my trip should be easy:http://bit.ly/176QIC9 + Chico and Redding (sorry - Google can't handle more waypoints).
Rabobank Atascadero SuperChargers will be a little tricky, because I'm not sure if I can charge my Leaf there. :?


After that it's going to be pretty hard. I can only hope to find enough camps with a 110v outlet to get me all the way to Ashland, OR. Unfortunately I can only trickle charge, so Redding, CA to Ashland, OR will take a looooong time. :(


Does anyone have any tips? I'm leaving in an hour. :D
Just me and my dog Suzie.
Will post all updates on Twitter: https://twitter.com/NissanLeafTrips" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
It's a bit late, quite late in fact, but what you needed to do was to borrow an upgraded EVSE from a local LEAFer plus some adapters so that you could charge at Level 2 at campsites. Other than that, Plugshare is your friend.
 
markpp said:
Rabobank Atascadero SuperChargers will be a little tricky, because I'm not sure if I can charge my Leaf there. :?
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Nope. Tesla SuperChargers are NOT compatible with anything but the Tesla Model S. You will need to use the J1772s there.
 
RonDawg said:
markpp said:
Rabobank Atascadero SuperChargers will be a little tricky, because I'm not sure if I can charge my Leaf there. :?
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Nope. Tesla SuperChargers are NOT compatible with anything but the Tesla Model S. You will need to use the J1772s there.
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Of course you can charge in Atascadero at the Tesla/Clipper Creek 70 amp EVSE with J1772.

Maybe this would help?


Nissan LEAF 100% Electric Car
San Diego to Portland, Oregon

June 13 through June 19, 2012

http://westcoastgreenhighway.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Route:

Miles - City, Address, [charge station]

Wednesday, June 13:
----- San Diego, my house near Poway [Blink L2]
67 - Laguna Beach - 547 Forrest Ave [Chargepoint L2]
10 - Newport Beach - 1151 Newport Center Dr [Chargepoint L2]
20 - Cypress - 6400 Katella Ave [Eaton DC]
Alternate: Los Angeles – Church and State Restaurant, 676 Mateo [Blink DC]
52 - Malibu - 23555 Civic Center Way [Clipper Creek L2]
45 - Ventura - 460 E. Harbor Blvd [Chargepoint L2 $$]
Alternate: Camarillo - Mike M's house for booze and laughs [his dryer NEMA 10-30]
34 - Santa Barbara - 4770 Calle Real [Blink L2]
31 - Solvang - 1556 Mission Drive [Chargepoint L2 $]
---- Solvang, Holiday Inn Express, 1455 Mission Drive, 805-688-2018 [RON only] reserved*

259 miles

Thursday, June 14:
---- Solvang, Holiday Inn Express, 1455 Mission Drive, 805-688-2018 [RON only] reserved*
---- Solvang - 1556 Mission Drive [Chargepoint L2 $]
55 - Pismo Beach - Air Park Drive, numerous RV parks with: [NEMA 14-50]
14 - San Luis Obisbo - Target, 11990 Los Osos Valley Rd [Clipper Creek L2]
18 - Morro Bay - RV Park, 1700 Embarcadero 805-772-2722 [NEMA 14-50]
Alternate: Morro Bay - LK Private residence [L2]
30 - San Simeon - Hearst Winery, 442 Slo San Simeon Road, 805-927-4100, POC: Geraldine [Dryer NEMA 10-30]
38 - Lucia - Lucia Lodge, 62400 California 1, 831-667-2391 [120 volts]
26 - Big Sur - RV Camping, 47000 Highway 1, Phone (831) 667-2322 [NEMA 14-50] reserved*

182 miles

Friday, June 15:
----- Big Sur - RV Camping, 47000 Highway 1, Phone 831-667-2322 [NEMA 14-50] reserved*
54 - Watsonville, 275 Main St #400, [Blink L2]
60 - Palo Alto - 660 Stanford Shopping Center, 650-617-8202 [350green DC]
----- Private residence [RON only] reserved*

114 miles

Saturday, June 16:

----- Private residence [RON only] reserved*

----- Palo Alto - 660 Stanford Shopping Center, 650-617-8202 [350green DC$$]
10 - Belmont - Volkswagen, 600 Clipper Dr [Blink DC]
76 - Santa Rosa - Nissan, 1275 Santa Rosa Ave [L2, maybe Blink DC]
63 - Ukiah - Super 8, 693 South Orchard Avenue, 707-468-8181 [AV L2] reserved*

149 miles

Sunday, June 17:

----- Ukiah - Super 8, 693 South Orchard Avenue, 707-468-8181 [AV L2] reserved*
68 - Leggett (half way point) numerous RV parks [NEMA 14-50]
52 - Redcrest - RV park, 707-722-4396 [NEMA 14-50]
39 - Eureka - 2 "C" Street [Chargepoint L2]
14 - Trinidad - numerous RV parks [NEMA 14-50]
71 - Crescent City - numerous RV parks [NEMA 14-50]

244 miles

Monday, June 18 or Tuesday, June 19:
----- Crescent City - numerous RV parks [NEMA 14-50]

Oregon, USA:
46 - Obrian - Lone Mountain RV Park [NEMA 14-50]
37 - Grants Pass, Oregon - Exit 58, 1995 NW Vine Street [AV-DC]
Alternate: Ashland, Oregon - Exit 14, 2373 Ashland Street [AV-DC]
Alternate: Point, Oregon - Exit 33, 1510 East Pine St [AV-DC]
20 - Wolf Creek, Oregon – Exit 76, 100 Front Street [AV-DC]
23 - Canyonville, Oregon – Exit 99, 130 Creekside Rd [AV DC]
27 - Roseburg, Oregon - Exit 125, 227 NW Garden Valley RD [AV DC]
26 - Rice Hill / Oakland / Sutherlin, Oregon - Exit 148, 621 John Long Road [AV DC]
26 - Cottage Grove, Oregon - Exit 174, 1570 Gateway Blvd [AV DC]
21 - Springfield / Eugene, Oregon - Exit 195, 840 Beltline Road [AV DC]
81 - Marion - Outlet Stores, 1001 Arney Rd NE [L2]
Alternate: Halsey, Oregon - Exit 216, 32180 Highway 228 [AV DC]
Alternate: Salem Oregon - Exit 256, [AV DC]
Alternate: Woodburn, Oregon - Exit 271, [AV DC]
28 - Portland, Oregon – Exit 1, Fred Meyer store, 3030 NE Weidler St [Blink DC]
Alternate: Portland, Oregon – Exit 299B, World Trade Center, 26 SW Salmon Street [JFE DC]
Alternate: Portland, Oregon – Exit 299B, 633 SW Montgomery St [Eaton DC]
Alternate: Wood Village, Oregon – WalMart, 23500 Northeast Sandy Boulevard, 503-492-9041 [Blink DC]

332 miles
 
Drive medium speed. 35-40. 45 if you must to be legal.

If you get stuck at level 1, take a nap and charge enough to get to a level 2. If your next stop is a QC, only charge at level 2 to make it (with a safe margin). In either case, remember the charging slows down above 95%, in the case of level 2, lower for the QC, so move on when it hits that mark if you can.

If you can charge at level 2 you can possibly average about 18 MPH driving at 40 MPH and charging when you can. If you can always QC you could average close to 35 driving at 65 MPH, but that looks unlikely over that whole route.

I did some range charts here. I hope you log your time/distance/charging so we can check out the predictions.
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=11978&start=10" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
markpp said:
Thanks Tony, great stuff.

100 miles so far at least 1100 to go. :)
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Keep in mind that is over a year old. There are lots of new charging spots now.

Here is this year's trip with the Rav4 EV:


84 miles - June 20 - S. Coast Plaza - ClipperCreek 30a/208v -free

61 miles - June 20-21 - Malibu Civic Center - CC 30/208- free

31 miles - June 21 - CSU Camarillo - CC30/208 - free

56 miles - June 21 - Rabobank Goleta - CC70?/208 - free

98 miles - June 21 - SBP Embassy Suites CC30/208 - free

135 miles - June 21-22 - Rabobank SNS 70ampCC (via 120v and ChargePoint) - free

117 miles - June 22-23 - Renaissance Club Sport Walnut Creek, CA - ChargePoint 208/30 - $??

71 miles - June 23 - Davis garage, 4th/G Street, CC70a/208v - free

91 miles - June 23-24 - Berry Patch Orland, CA, CC70a/240v!! First Roadster connector - free

151.6 miles - June 24 - Comfort Inn, Yreka, CA, CC70a /208vRoadster connector - free

121.8 miles - June 24 - Canyonville, OR, CC 70/208 Roadster - free

117 miles - June 24-25 Halsey, OR, AV 208/30 J1772 - free

83 miles - June 25 - Portland, OR, CC208/70 Roadster - $16 parking fee
 
Of course, if you come up the coast of California to Trinidad (30 miles north of Eureka) you can charge at my house (L2). Check out plugshare and Jim in Big Lagoon.
 
markpp said:
1st part of my trip should be easy:http://bit.ly/176QIC9 + Chico and Redding...

After that it's going to be pretty hard. I can only hope to find enough camps with a 110v outlet to get me all the way to Ashland, OR. Unfortunately I can only trickle charge, so Redding, CA to Ashland, OR will take a looooong time. :(
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Like a couple of days...

Try to pick up an EVSE upgrade en route.

You didn't say if you had a 3.6 or 6 kWh charger.

If you only have 3.6, and you can get a 16 Amp 240 V EVSE, you will also save some time time by taking the old 99 (I-5) route, bypassing 99 through Chico, which both is (probably) longer and requires higher speed driving, meaning much longer L2 time.

Trip reports on both routes here:

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=3319&p=321560#p321560" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

...There are still no J1772s between Winters (or Woodland) and Redding (other than the obsolete tesla roadster charge site at Orland) but with My EVSE upgrade, the lack of L2 infrastructure is largely irrelevant...
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Mark has now access to an SPX Power Xpress EVSE with a NEMA 14-50 plug. I advised him to ask RV sites if they had "50 amp service", since most of them likely won't know what it means to "plug in an electric car on 240V". I noticed that Tony had several RV sites listed upthread, which I would give strong consideration if I was driving along this route. Oh, and we counted eight temp bars on the dash gauge. Based on that readout, I advised Mark against charging to 100% on a QC.
 
surfingslovak said:
Mark has now access to an SPX Power Xpress EVSE with a NEMA 14-50 plug. I advised him to ask RV sites if they had "50 amp service", since most of them likely won't know what it means to "plug in an electric car on 240V". I noticed that Tony had several RV sites listed upthread, which I would give strong consideration if I was driving along this route. Oh, and we counted eight temp bars on the dash gauge. Based on that readout, I advised Mark against charging to 100% on a QC.
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Hi George.
Can't thank you enough. Probably saved my life (or at least two full days of charging).

Battery temp back to 6 bars. Didn't know about that. Thanks. :p
Also I finally found out what the "MODE" button does. :?


Now I have to find Best Buy or Target & get a charger for my ipad, because typing on this phone is horrible. :(

Sacramento is next, but thanks to you guys I can stay longer and actually see it. Yay!
 
markpp said:
Need to make it from Chico to Redding - another 80 miles. Not sure if it's possible. :(
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Here is the elevation profile for that trip. It looks like it's less than 80 miles though? The 600 feet of elevation gain will cost you about 1.5 kWh of usable energy. How many miles per kWh do you average on this trip? If you can achieve 4.2 m/kWh (please reset the meter), I think you will be able to drive 80 miles. How much experience do you have driving the LEAF beyond the three dashes "---" indicated? There should be about 1.3 kWh of usable energy left at that point.

Happy to have helped with the SPX EVSE. It's good to have in onboard, even if you don't end up charging at RV parks. I bought it be able to drive through Big Sur. There was a stretch of 118 miles without a charging station between Carmel and Morro Bay. Plenty of elevation difference on that route. Needless to say that I was sweating bullets.

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Redding --> Mt Shasta KOA camp: 63 miles, arrived with 15%, avg 3.7 mi/kwh. My speed was mostly around 45-50.

Charging to full (thanks George!). Next stop is Ashland, OR. It's 70+ miles... :?
 
markpp said:
Avg. energy eco was 5.6.
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Congrats! That's very good energy economy for a new owner. It looks like you have reached the southernmost terminus of the West Coast Electric Highway. Should be a breeze from here on out. As an aside, here is the website I used to find RV sites with 50 amp service in California:

http://www.rvparkreviews.com/regions/California/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


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I hope you have a "West Coast Electric Highway" fob to use on all those fantastic AeroVironment DC chargers.

I recommend stopping at each one and only charging to the minimum amount to reach the next one. That should mitigate the Nissan-Hot-Battery-Syndrome(TM)!!

In other words, try and keep the SOC% as low as possible.
 

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