jkirkebo
Well-known member
BrainDonor said:Any May sales numbers for LEAF and/or Volt yet?
179 in Norway, 1.4% market share. Close to average for this year.
BrainDonor said:Any May sales numbers for LEAF and/or Volt yet?
kmp647 said:I think it will improve , Nissan will be advertising the Leaf much more when the 2013 is out.
hopefully they will do some minor cosmetic tweaks (17 inch wheels) and appeal to some additional buyers
Nissan needs to send more to CA. Current average price of gas is $4.22 on gasbuddy.comLTLFTcomposite said:So 510 vs 370 for the previous month? At that rate they will sell nearly 16k in the Jun-Dec period.
Don't expect gas prices to bolster demand though as oil keeps dropping. Expect to start seeing gas prices that start with "2".
I'm still optimistic too. I was an early adopter in the hybrid market too. The first few years it seemed like I was the only hybrid on the road. It was rare to see another one anywhere. Sales numbers were low over the whole US (and maybe the whole world). But a few years later it picked up. Now, even here in Texas, I can walk through any parking lot and see at least 3 or 4 hybrid vehicles. With Toyota's new line-up, I expect to see a lot more over the next few years.kmp647 said:I think it will improve , Nissan will be advertising the Leaf much more when the 2013 is out.
hopefully they will do some minor cosmetic tweaks (17 inch wheels) and appeal to some additional buyers
What was most interesting to me is that the Volt sold more than the PiP in May, the opposite of last month.adric22 said:I'm still optimistic too. I was an early adopter in the hybrid market too. The first few years it seemed like I was the only hybrid on the road. It was rare to see another one anywhere. Sales numbers were low over the whole US (and maybe the whole world). But a few years later it picked up. Now, even here in Texas, I can walk through any parking lot and see at least 3 or 4 hybrid vehicles. With Toyota's new line-up, I expect to see a lot more over the next few years.kmp647 said:I think it will improve , Nissan will be advertising the Leaf much more when the 2013 is out.
hopefully they will do some minor cosmetic tweaks (17 inch wheels) and appeal to some additional buyers
I think the EVs will take time. I admit I'm disappointed that it isn't happening faster. I had originally hoped that Nissan would be selling 100,000 units this year. I guess that isn't going to happen.
I also agree that a lower price point would certainly attract more buyers. But I don't think that is the only issue. Most folks are still totally unaware of the technology. I've had people comment about my Leaf being "cute" and were surprised to know it was an electric car. They didn't even know such a thing existed. Even with the new Volt we got a few days ago, we were picking up my Daughter from daycare and some moms were commenting in the parking lot about how nice looking of a car it was, but they thought it was a Malibu.
What I wonder about is why the Volt re-took the lead over the PiP. Was the market for California people who just wanted HOV stickers at the lowest price largely satisfied in March and April, and the Volt sales are to more dedicated EV people? Or are people looking at the price comparison between the two cars, and recognizing that the subsidy structure advantages the Volt (which is a much nicer car)?evmike said:What I am seeing in California is the HOV sticker for the PiP and Volt is really killing interest in the LEAF. At work we have three new PiPs and three new Volts with green HOV stickers in the last two months. We even have a CODA. But no new LEAFs.
I cannot help but think that total cost of ownership favors the Volt, assuming both get their drivers the HOV stickers (or not, as in other states).GRA said:What I wonder about is why the Volt re-took the lead over the PiP. Was the market for California people who just wanted HOV stickers at the lowest price largely satisfied in March and April, and the Volt sales are to more dedicated EV people? Or are people looking at the price comparison between the two cars, and recognizing that the subsidy structure advantages the Volt (which is a much nicer car)?
Perhaps many people are deciding that the 10-15 mile all-electric range of the PiP just is not worth it, but the 30-40 mile all-electric range of the Volt is enough to make a difference.GRA said:What I wonder about is why the Volt re-took the lead over the PiP.
All the CA dealers around me have lots of LEAFs on their lots. Unfortunately I don't see any supply shortage here, so it would appear demand has really taken a hit. I have heard that the LEAF has lost some sales to the Tesla-S, so price is not the whole answer.smkettner said:Nissan needs to send more to CA. Current average price of gas is $4.22 on gasbuddy.com
Enter your email address to join: