DNAinaGoodWay
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If nothing else changes, and the next LEAF is 48kWh, it would take an hour to QC in summer and two hours in winter.
Well, that goes for any car with about 48kWh of battery using Chademo.DNAinaGoodWay said:If nothing else changes, and the next LEAF is 48kWh, it would take an hour to QC in summer and two hours in winter.
If they aren't taking advantage of the 100-130 kW of the Supercharger stations, is it really Supercharging? I suppose Nissan could buy into the system for dialed down charging — so I take your point — but that still doesn't make them competitive for long distance travel IMO. It certainly wouldn't suffice for my needs.pkulak said:Leafs actually charge with a higher C value than Teslas. A 48-kWh Leaf could take 80 kW from a Tesla super charger no problem. At least to start.
dgpcolorado said:If they aren't taking advantage of the 100-130 kW of the Supercharger stations, is it really Supercharging? I suppose Nissan could buy into the system for dialed down charging — so I take your point — but that still doesn't make them competitive for long distance travel IMO. It certainly wouldn't suffice for my needs.pkulak said:Leafs actually charge with a higher C value than Teslas. A 48-kWh Leaf could take 80 kW from a Tesla super charger no problem. At least to start.
If Tesla and the Supercharger network are successful, it will be interesting to see what Nissan (and the others) will do. My guess is that Nissan will stay with models limited to local/regional travel and the rather kludgy Chademo system, because that range covers the large majority of most driver's needs. I certainly expect that for "LEAF 2", at least. After 2020, I don't know what will happen.
Yes. The strategy when hopping from Supercharger to Supercharger on a long trip is to arrive at a low SOC then charge just enough to make the next one plus a small buffer of miles of range. That way nearly all of the charging is in the bottom half of the SOC so the charge rate is mostly at the peak. The Model III can be expected to be a bit slower to charge than the S85 due to the smaller battery size, although it should get a bit better miles/kWh to compensate.dhanson865 said:...BTW even a 85 kWh Model S will drop down to below 20KW late in the supercharging session...
desiv said:Well, that goes for any car with about 48kWh of battery using Chademo.DNAinaGoodWay said:If nothing else changes, and the next LEAF is 48kWh, it would take an hour to QC in summer and two hours in winter.
And of course, assumes:
-Your car is near empty
-QC stations don't upgrade (as I understand it, Chademo supports higher power in the standard)
-It takes twice as long in the winter, which isn't my experience. Although that can depend, I guess, on your definition of "winter."
Even Tesla owners are getting Chademo adapters, so it can't be that bad. Heck, it will take them even LONGER to charge. ;-)
desiv
DNAinaGoodWay said:If nothing else changes, and the next LEAF is 48kWh, it would take an hour to QC in summer and two hours in winter.
Which Nissan invitation is that?asimba2 said:The Nissan Invitation ...
DanCar said:Which Nissan invitation is that?asimba2 said:The Nissan Invitation ...
LeafMuranoDriver said:asimba2 - Thanks for the pic. I like it! Good improvements over Gen1 but I know it won't be exact.
The myth lives on ...DanCar said:The current leaf is based on the Nissan Versa...
Because the Internet says it, it must be true...DanCar said:http://www.pluginamerica.org/vehicles/nissan-leaf
The Nissan LEAF was built from the ground up to be an EV. It is a 5-seater, 4-door hatchback based on Versa/Tiida platform.
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The next year, the Electric Vehicle went into a second-generation, this time based on a Nissan Versa and referred to by Nissan as the EV-12. It's pictured above and is visually the most LEAF-like and was what eventually lead to the LEAF being based on the Versa's platform and chassis.
Yes, one of so many myths that won't die because it keeps getting "reprinted", but I also still remember the Nissan folks stating otherwise when asked. Part of the confusion is that they did build some early prototypes on the Versa and of course the LEAF has some passing resemblance (tall, squat, hatchback). (At least the Wikipedia entry currently acknowledges that it was the prototype that was built on a Versa.)ishiyakazuo said:Because the Internet says it, it must be true...
greenstreampublishing.wordpress.com said:A number of prototype electric cars, based on the Nissan Cube and Nissan Versa were produced and road tested. As part of the battery development programme, I drove one of the latter on a short test run in the summer of 2009 and was greatly impressed with its performance and driveability.
Meanwhile, the car design began to take shape. Rather than modify an existing vehicle architecture, the decision was made to create a brand new architecture specifically for the new electric car. The reason for this approach was simple: the motor and transmission for an electric car are far smaller than a conventional car, but the battery pack is both heavy and bulky. By creating a new vehicle structure rather than adapting an existing model, it would be possible to optimise the vehicle around its electric powertrain rather than create a compromise car that would never be quite as good as a conventionally powered car.
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