tps
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I've had no power at the house since Monday 9PM. I've been recharging he car from a 120 VAC outlet in the parking garage at the office.
tps said:I've had no power at the house since Monday 9PM. I've been recharging he car from a 120 VAC outlet in the parking garage at the office.
Just to add a bit to the discussion, Tom Moloughney posted the following photo in the ActiveE FB group the other day along with this description. This sure makes you feel a lot better about having solar on the roof and an EV in the garage.cwerdna said:Re: the gas situation. That's crazy. The news had been talking about gas lines like those of the 70s.
Tom Moloughney said:Just found an open gas station. Hundreds of people on line to fill up gas cans.
Tom Moloughney said:As hard as it is to believe it's actually gotten much worse in one day. Now only a few gas stations have gas and power and the lines are incredible hundreds of cars stretching for at least three quarters of a mile from every gas station trying to get gas. And now electric cars are starting to show up at Nauna's to charge we had a Nissan leaf and a Mitsubishi i come by yesterday to charge.
...“People need gas,” he said. “The temperature keeps dropping. It was really cold last night.”
As long as people have gas for their generators so they can keep warm, they will stay calm. But he expects problems if gas stations do not get a new supply.
“Once the gas runs out, people will start panicking,” he said. “There will be more fires. People will use books, wood, anything they can. Without electricity, you start to go a little crazy.”
I would say about 40% - 50% of the gas stations were initially affected, however most are back online by now. They seem to be busier than usual.adric22 said:tps said:I've had no power at the house since Monday 9PM. I've been recharging he car from a 120 VAC outlet in the parking garage at the office.
This is something I've wondered about. Can you give us an idea (to be fair) how many gas stations are inoperative?
Another thing I'm curious about. What would be your Plan-C, so to speak, if charging at work was not an option or if power was out at work too?
Yep - and many of these people actually enjoy these moments because at last they get to show everyone they were really smart for taking the time to prepare, while other people have to wait for help.mwalsh said:I dislike these anti-government, survivalist types for many reasons. But one thing I'm pretty sure of...they wouldn't be needing to wait on the government for much of anything.
smkettner said:This past summer I came across an old fuel station owned by an old man that had a working gas pump with the glass top and you had to pull the lever to bring the fuel up. It was a sight to see him fill a Model A pick up. The whole transaction took about 15 minutes to get 10 gallons. Even if every station had one they could not fill the cars fast enough.
Yeah that's one idea, but... Are there really no gas stations that have backup generators? You're sitting on 1000s of gallons of gas but you can't sell it to anyone because you can't burn a little bit of it to keep the pumps on? Really?mwalsh said:So gas stations have no power. What about mechanical pumps? And cash transactions into a measured device, like a 5 gallon container, so it can be charged for accordingly. There seem to be solutions that nobody is considering because "it's too much work". Really?
Businesses just don't spend money on things they don't need in the normal course of business. You would think it would be worth renting a generator set considering that you could easily raise prices to compensate.fooljoe said:Yeah that's one idea, but... Are there really no gas stations that have backup generators? You're sitting on 1000s of gallons of gas but you can't sell it to anyone because you can't burn a little bit of it to keep the pumps on? Really?mwalsh said:So gas stations have no power. What about mechanical pumps? And cash transactions into a measured device, like a 5 gallon container, so it can be charged for accordingly. There seem to be solutions that nobody is considering because "it's too much work". Really?
fooljoe said:Well I actually heard on the radio this morning about a gas station that did have a generator to keep its pumps going (and of course is experiencing huge lines of people waiting to fill up.) So at least some stations managed to plan ahead for events like this. I imagine they made back the capital cost of that generator in about an hour.
Oddly enough, gas prices are about the same as they were all through October - maybe even a bit cheaper - despite the shortage. Go figure!davewill said:Businesses just don't spend money on things they don't need in the normal course of business. You would think it would be worth renting a generator set considering that you could easily raise prices to compensate.
fooljoe said:Well I actually heard on the radio this morning about a gas station that did have a generator to keep its pumps going (and of course is experiencing huge lines of people waiting to fill up.) So at least some stations managed to plan ahead for events like this. I imagine they made back the capital cost of that generator in about an hour.
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