Nismo LEAF Unveiled!!!

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Herm said:
I wonder if it has a space frame underneath the skin or a standard chasis?

For this answer, please see the two interior shots posted at the Net Car Shows gallery.

http://www.netcarshow.com/nissan/2011-leaf_nismo_rc_concept/03.htm
 
TRONZ said:
For this answer, please see the two interior shots posted at the Net Car Shows gallery.

http://www.netcarshow.com/nissan/2011-leaf_nismo_rc_concept/03.htm

apparently neither a space frame nor the standard chassis, but a monocoque carbon fiber chassis

http://www.netcarshow.com/nissan/2011-leaf_nismo_rc_concept/800x600/wallpaper_19.htm

http://www.netcarshow.com/nissan/2011-leaf_nismo_rc_concept/800x600/wallpaper_1a.htm
 
Drool! The faster spool up of the motor is very apparent. Shows what eliminating 1500lbs of weight does for a LEAF. Looks like Nissan will be getting a ton of data and software/component testing for their "sports car". And paving the way for the marketing of such a vehicle as well.
 
Another video clip of NISMO testing the car and interviews with engineer and driver. They are pushing the car harder this time.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPYmge92P0A[/youtube]
 
I hope they can find a way to remove enough weight to make the car perform like this....

http://www.youtube.com/embed/-f0p4Qu2qxc?rel=0

[youtube]-f0p4Qu2qxc[/youtube]
 
Once they put in a proper motor, the stock motor is not designed for performance.
 
80kW is not going to cut it for racing unless the get down below 1500lbs. Since that is not going to likely happen then they need to put in a 300kW power-train.
 
It would be racing with other identical cars so there is no need to upgrade anything. only driver safety issues. Its a great way to stress test all the electrical components in a Leaf, including the battery under fast charge/discharge conditions.
 
palmermd said:
80kW is not going to cut it for racing unless the get down below 1500lbs. Since that is not going to likely happen then they need to put in a 300kW power-train.
It's already down to 2058 lbs - even just 200 kW would be more than enough (after all w/just 80 kW they can already drain it in 20 minutes with just the 80 kW motor - w/200 kW they could probably drain it in less than 10 minutes), but they probably need a couple gears to get some decent top speed out of it without killing low-speed acceleration.
 
You don't need any gears. That's the beauty of electric!
See this, from a few years ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qDZOBQs60w
(Wrightspeed X1 prototype -- sadly never got venture backing even though it would beat the Tesla at the same price point)
 
jwatte said:
You don't need any gears. That's the beauty of electric!
See this, from a few years ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qDZOBQs60w
(Wrightspeed X1 prototype -- sadly never got venture backing even though it would beat the Tesla at the same price point)
Electric motors still have efficiency curves and power/torque curves. While they are much flatter than a gas/diesel engine, they can still use the mechanical advantage to improve efficiency/acceleration/top speed.

80 kW is more than enough to get your average vehicle well over 100 mph - the race car should be able to do 120 at least with it's low profile.

There's a reason why Tesla spent so much R&D on their 2-speed gearbox - what's funny is that the improvements to the electronics caught up and allowed them to meet their performance goals before they could build a reliable 2-speed transmission...
 
drees said:
palmermd said:
80kW is not going to cut it for racing unless the get down below 1500lbs. Since that is not going to likely happen then they need to put in a 300kW power-train.
It's already down to 2058 lbs - even just 200 kW would be more than enough (after all w/just 80 kW they can already drain it in 20 minutes with just the 80 kW motor - w/200 kW they could probably drain it in less than 10 minutes), but they probably need a couple gears to get some decent top speed out of it without killing low-speed acceleration.


I did not mean to confuse everyone, but I was referring to making a Nismo Leaf that could keep up with that car on the 3 minute hill climb, not race on a track as Nissan is intending to do with the Nismo car. Racing on the track with the stock power-train is far more valuable to Nissan and frankly for us Leaf owners as well, but I just thought that run up the hill was frighteningly fast, and could only imagine what kind of power that guy had in his car.
 
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