DaveinOlyWA
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just to reiterate; no QC = no consideration. faster L2 means ZERO to me. i have all night and my "pathetically" slow L2 running at a mere 12 amps still gets done hours before i need the car
TomT said:Repeat after me, it is a compliance car. GM and Nissan are the only two major manufactures that are currently serious about their vehicles...
Without QC stations, a faster L2 has some of the same usefulness as QC. Not all, but some. I agree that QC is better than L2 of any speed.DaveinOlyWA said:just to reiterate; no QC = no consideration. faster L2 means ZERO to me. i have all night and my "pathetically" slow L2 running at a mere 12 amps still gets done hours before i need the car
edatoakrun said:Well, GM is serious about PHEVs.
redLEAF said:Charging after hours unless of course there are lower rates within a very narrow timeline that wouldn't allow a full charge at the lower charge rate of the '11/'12 LEAF would also be an advantage but again, my power is a flat rate regardless of when I charge it but I set the timer anyway because their is less stress on the grid at night as we all know.
Well, that $25k might include training fees ...gergg said:I have a friend that is a GM at a Ford dealership, he said that Ford charges them a huge up-front fee($25,000) just to have the "right" to stock/purchase the FFE.....they are not carrying them because of this.
evnow said:Well, that $25k might include training fees ...gergg said:I have a friend that is a GM at a Ford dealership, he said that Ford charges them a huge up-front fee($25,000) just to have the "right" to stock/purchase the FFE.....they are not carrying them because of this.
evnow said:Well, that $25k might include training fees ...gergg said:I have a friend that is a GM at a Ford dealership, he said that Ford charges them a huge up-front fee($25,000) just to have the "right" to stock/purchase the FFE.....they are not carrying them because of this.
Oh, are they having Aerovironment install them? :lol:DaveinOlyWA said:Sounds like cost of charging stations to me
cwerdna said:I got an email from Ford and it had a link to FFE test drives.
Page is at http://register.fordgreendrive.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. There are test drives in GA, AZ, SC, NC, CA AL, and WA. Interesting Casa Grande is on there...
I think you are right. There is a lot more effort and energy into the:EVDrive said:Ford is not all in for making the Focus EV a success in my opinion. If they are serious, they will add the SAE DC socket to all their cars going forward.
EVDrive said:Ford is not all in for making the Focus EV a success in my opinion. If they are serious, they will add the SAE DC socket to all their cars going forward...
edatoakrun said:EVDrive said:Ford is not all in for making the Focus EV a success in my opinion. If they are serious, they will add the SAE DC socket to all their cars going forward...
IMO, Ford now faces the same dilemma as GM.
Both have invested heavily in PHEV technology and production, and now both must deal with the same reality.
Once the American DC infrastructure is in place, the demand for PHEVs will probably drop precipitously.
So, do ford and GM produce just enough DC capable cars to slow CHAdeMO expansion?
Or do they produce enough DC capable BEVs/PHEV to actully support a DC infrastructure, accelerating the sales of BEVs by other manufactures, including the company with the largest EV production capacity by far, Nissan?
DaveinOlyWA said:edatoakrun said:EVDrive said:Ford is not all in for making the Focus EV a success in my opinion. If they are serious, they will add the SAE DC socket to all their cars going forward...
IMO, Ford now faces the same dilemma as GM.
Both have invested heavily in PHEV technology and production, and now both must deal with the same reality.
Once the American DC infrastructure is in place, the demand for PHEVs will probably drop precipitously.
So, do ford and GM produce just enough DC capable cars to slow CHAdeMO expansion?
Or do they produce enough DC capable BEVs/PHEV to actually support a DC infrastructure, accelerating the sales of BEVs by other manufactures, including the company with the largest EV production capacity by far, Nissan?
Ed; dont see it that way and neither does Ford. the C-Max was introduced for those who want an EV/Hybrid household of which the Prius dominates.
it is no mistake that the C-max is slightly larger than the Prius, slightly cheaper than the Prius and has slightly more EV range than the Prius.
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