keydiver
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I would have liked another option in the poll: I will buy another EV, but it DEFINITELY will not be a Nissan.
LTLFTcomposite said:Rondawg and Daveinoly all valid points but my capacity to make poor personal financial choices for a cause is not without limits.
+1keydiver said:I would have liked another option in the poll: I will buy another EV, but it DEFINITELY will not be a Nissan.
pchilds said:+1keydiver said:I would have liked another option in the poll: I will buy another EV, but it DEFINITELY will not be a Nissan.
mrdcmills said:What if I put $100 per month in the safe? Or buy BP stock w/ a 5% dividend.
TomT said:+2
pchilds said:+1keydiver said:I would have liked another option in the poll: I will buy another EV, but it DEFINITELY will not be a Nissan.
+4vrwl said:+3TomT said:+2+1pchilds said:I would have liked another option in the poll: I will buy another EV, but it DEFINITELY will not be a Nissan.
+1. It may be 6 more years before I have to replace the battery, and I recognize that no one has a crystal ball to predict accurately what the state of battery technology will be at that time, or how Nissan's approach to this problem might change by then, so I don't really know what to think about this announcement. But I will say that it feels like a big kick in my gut right now. Their recent actions have not helped instill any confidence in their support for early adopters who purchased the car for long-term usage rather than leasing. If this information had been available in 2011, my decision to buy vs. lease would have been very different. But that can also be said about the other information we were fed by Nissan regarding battery degradation, which has changed so radically since 2010-2011 (from losing 30% capacity in 10 years to losing 30% in 5 years!) At this point, I am not sure I could believe anything that Nissan says anymore, so what's the point of any reassuring statement like that anyway? I feel totally betrayed as a customer at this point. All I can do is hope that time heals the wound and provides an aftermarket solution for my desire to keep this car for 20 years.klapauzius said:Again, I could understand Nissans positions NOT to commit to numbers right now, but a statement along the lines of
"We will offer a replacement battery for sale in the future and will pay a fair market value for the used OEM battery in exchange" would give me some piece of mind.
You might be right about this.Randmac said:I suspect this battery rental scheme is accounting methods that allows a company that manufactures batteries to shift corporate tax burden back to citizens by claiming business loss on depreciated rented batteries. They can claim the battery cost is whatever outrageous number they want for tax purposes and then depreciate down to 0 in a few years. This scheme falls apart the minute they make a cost public.
+1+3+4
+5 and they can stick that warranty joke plan where the sun don't shine.
Ian B
+6
Bought my Nissan in 2011 hoping replacement will be supported. Nissan lost touch my resale values just went down the tube! Nissan buy my car back and I take your new lease deal instead of leasing me a battery at $100 month.
GregH said:+1+3+4
+5 and they can stick that warranty joke plan where the sun don't shine.
Ian B
+6
Bought my Nissan in 2011 hoping replacement will be supported. Nissan lost touch my resale values just went down the tube! Nissan buy my car back and I take your new lease deal instead of leasing me a battery at $100 month.
Wow! So the consensus here is that Nissan will never offer a replacement pack for purchase? I suspect they WILL at some point.. right now that replacement cost is just too high to publish. Nissan doesn't want headlines like "Nissan announces Leaf battery replacement cost at $12,000" (or similar) for a large variety of reasons. The lease offer was probably an attempt to further delay publishing a real number. Seems to have backfired, but I can't blame them for trying. If you're waiting for ANY manufacturer to announce a $5000 EV battery replacement I believe you'll be waiting a while.