cwerdna said:
NoMoShocks said:
If the EPA found 73, that seem fairly close to accurate. But less than 70 is even more accurate.
Yes. EPA lists 73 miles at http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/evsbs.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
Nissan lists ranges for a variety of scenarios at http://www.nissanusa.com/leaf-electric-car/range" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. The Leaf range page looked very different early on and during the '11 model year, but I think the scenarios and ranges listed were the same.
Yes they were the same. I considered them very carefully, as I my driving range needs were towards the maximum available from the LEAF. These range estimates also were on the disclosure papers every LEAF buyer and Lessee signed before taking delivery. I took a few minutes to read the paperwork before I signed. Sorry to hear that so many apparently did not, relying instead on a salesperson's or auto show representative's verbal statements.
And they were, and are IMO, conservative estimates reflecting "average" driving techniques, not hypermiling.
Cross-town commute on a hot day
Distance: 68 miles
Speed: Average 49 mph
Temperature: 110 degrees
Climate control: On
Driving from a rural area into the city at an average 49 mph with the a/c on high may produce this range. Under these conditions, climate control combined with higher-speed driving produces increased energy consumption, hence the effect on range.
If those of you in very hot climates feel Nissan "lied" to you about range, you might have considered checking your own LEAFs against this range estimate last Summer. I'm fairly sure my LEAF could have done it over both the Summer of 2011 and 2012, though the logistics of this test would be tough for me, as it only gets that hot a few days of the year near my home.
BTW, my Lease paperwork also shows a range,
55 mph average highway, at 95 degree F, AC on, of 70 miles, which is NOT posted at the Nissan site above.
This might be an easier range test for LEAF owners to replicate in a much broader range of climates, if they really want to see how much range they have lost from what Nissan promised them.
You may recall that nine of the 12 Arizona Test LEAFs exceeded 70 miles in a very roughly equivalent range test (higher speed, but no AC), including two LEAFs that had only 9 capacity bars showing.
http://mynissanleaf.com/wiki/index.php?title=Battery_Capacity_Loss" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;