scottf200 said:
EVDrive said:
I appreciate what GM accomplished in building the Volt. With their history of killing electric trains last century
<snip> 1936 to 1950 <snip>
Last century GM conspired with standard oil and others to lead the effort to kill municipal electric train systems in the us so they could sell cars and buses.
So my
grandfather was a die-hard Ford fan (seriously) and now I know potentially why!!! :idea: Bring up something from early-mid last century?! Wait I think the Volt is a nod to the diesel electric train as the current "grandsons" at GM felt guilty :lol: You hardcore haters really make me laugh some days. I'm going to use this as a story to tell my kids. Too funny.
Yea . . . c'mon . . . forget the past
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it",
George Santayana
Good ol' Georgie . . . . he must have been a hater ... if all it takes is learning from history then
SanDust said:
DANandNAN said:
Someone suggested I was dropped on my head. Obviously I was dropped on my head because I:
Anyone with a pencil and some free space on the back on an envelope and a lick of sense can figure out QCs won't work primarily because there aren't enough not enough Leafs on the road and there won't be many drivers willing to pay a lot for the privilege of using a slow, inconvenient, and unreliable QC.
However, if you believe that QCs are the key to getting people to buy EVs, and you want people to buy EVs, then emotionally you don't want to face the facts and you go looking for a scapegoat. The SAE plug is a convenient if irrelevant scapegoat. It's human nature. Just accept that some people don't want to face reality and they'll find some reason why a "bad person" has ruined their dreams, and they'll shoot any messenger who points out why that's not the case.
" ... don't want to face the facts ..." um - you left out what facts you're thinking of. Are the things you think are facts, really facts? ... or just suppositions. Can't tell ... ie; You're speak without referencing what your subject is. It can't be determined what you find to be a fact, if you don't say what the fact is. As to the remainder of the post - (and I'm just trying to follow your logic) - if you're in the camp that loves frankenplug's - "don't worry about the non-existent cars ... just worry about our proposed Chademo embargo" business model .... then you must emotionally see the pro Chademo users as "bad persons" ... as you say ... because Chademo users are ruining your dreams / SAE "dreams". And GM's "dreams" are the very thing at issue. I'd raise GM's "motive" as an issue ... but then the "hater" label would be thrown at me. Apparently we can't learn from GM's (or any other) history ... as that makes one a hater.
Then there are those in the "2-faced" camp ... claiming to hate both frankenplug and Chademo ... yet they're here, damning Chademo ... instead of getting out lobbying against Frankenplug. Hey ... no better time to kill something like an appliance that no one uses, while it's still prenatal, right? ... so ... why isn't the anti-Frankenplug camp taking off - to go some where else, to go crusade against the easy frankenplug kill ... rather then fighting against our working QC?
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