garygid
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Have you actually found any EVSE units for sale witout installation?
If so, what maker, model, and price, please.
If so, what maker, model, and price, please.
fumer said:I also own a German 220 VAC lawnmower! Lighter and more powerful than domestic 120 VAC 1.44 KW versions.
A wheeled suitcase?? How heavy do you think an EVSE is, anyway? It's not a charger, just a handful of electronic components. You could probably use it as a frisbee!fumer said:So my plan is to buy a Coulomb or some other competing Level 2 charger, mount it in a wheeled suitcase and make myself a handful of cord-end adaptors.
fumer said:I assumed what eTec wants my $100 to come give me an estimate to provide was indeed a charger, 240 VAC to whatever DC. If that's not the case then $2,000 + is a lot for a fuse box. I just learned from my Nissan dealer that: "at this time Nissan will not deliver a leaf to anyone that does not have a charger installed by AeroVironment". Hmmmm. I'm a bit disinclined to pay $100 for an estimate when I hanen't even driven the car yet! I have been in touch with someone at Coloumb though I havn't checked on their prices. And again, if it's not a charger but rather some proprietary Nissan communications device, then well, it damn well oughta come with the car, and I'll get my own (DIY) electrician.
fumer said:I have been in touch with someone at Coloumb though I havn't checked on their prices.
No, the DC charging port on the Leaf is only intended to be for public "quick charge" stations - 80% charge in under 30 minutes. These have 5-figure prices, and are not expected to be available for use at home. (It looks like one or more companies may challenge Nissan's "intention", but that is another story.)fumer said:I assumed what eTec wants my $100 to come give me an estimate to provide was indeed a charger, 240 VAC to whatever DC.
$2200 is just Nissan's guess as to the average cost. The quote you get could be be considerably less or considerably more. Most of it is not for the EVSE box. It includes having an electrician install cable from your breaker box to wherever you want to have the EVSE mounted. It might include an upgrade to your breaker box or even to your service from the electric utility. It probably includes three trips to your home by a licensed electrician, and it certainly includes permits from the city, preparing a formal estimate, and paperwork for AeroVironment and Nissan.fumer said:If that's not the case then $2,000 + is a lot for a fuse box.
Like EVDRIVER, I believe this is just FUD. Personally, I intend to charge my Leaf only from 120v, and Nissan has confirmed several times that this is allowed, though not "recommended".fumer said:I just learned from my Nissan dealer that: "at this time Nissan will not deliver a leaf to anyone that does not have a charger installed by AeroVironment".
Look at it this way. If you intend to get some electric car any time in the near future, and you want to be able to charge it any faster than, say, about four or five miles of range per hour of charging time, then you are going to want 240v charging. Now that there is a standard, all of the manufacturers are moving to it. The EVSE you get from AeroVironment will work for nearly any electric vehicle you decide to buy, and they are all going to require an EVSE for 240v charging.fumer said:I'm a bit disinclined to pay $100 for an estimate when I haven't even driven the car yet!
As soon as the CHAdeMO protocol is available to the public, I know of at least one company that will do their best to manufacture one. I spoke with them a bit a couple months ago and we felt that starting with a 12 kW version would probably be the most popular since it would only require a 50 amp outlet.TEG said:Given that the built in charger is lethargic (only 3.3kW, not even 6.6kW) and CHAdeMO L3 has not materialized in the USA, would it be possible to make a mid-range external charger that plugs into the L3/DC port?
For instance, it could have a 50AMP NEMA14-50 to plug in at campgrounds and supply 10kW+ charging through the DC port?
Perhaps also a J1772 adapter as there are public Tesla HPCs being converted to J1772 around, and they can offer, 32A, 40A, and higher. The included portable EVSE (even with the 240V mod) can only draw a tiny fraction of that.
If someone built a box with NEMA14-50 and J1772 and could output 10kW+ to the L3 I would certainly buy one.
Never heard that and I have stayed at a few.garygid said:Note: Some RV Parks only provide 40 amps at their "50-amp" sites.
You do know about the 240V conversion of the Panasonic EVSE, right? Not Nissan authorized, but still....SteveInSeattle said:Don't forget that they have 240v in Europe (no 120 at all)..so the Nissan/panasonic charger sold with the Leaf there has to be 240.. it exists, why not just make it an option?
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