Auto-lock is a default setting. I turned it off.Oils4AsphaultOnly said:How do you "not lock" your Tesla? They auto-lock unless the car is still on, or one of the doors are ajar.
Auto-lock is a default setting. I turned it off.Oils4AsphaultOnly said:How do you "not lock" your Tesla? They auto-lock unless the car is still on, or one of the doors are ajar.
scottf200 said:MSRP $82.0K - BMW M3 Competition
MSRP $72.5K - Tesla Model 3 Performance
Title: Battle of the 3s - Tesla Model 3 Performance vs BMW M3 Competition 1/4 Mile Drag Racing + VBOX Data
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7EFiqEyv_c[/youtube]
Talk to drivers 7 minutes into the videohttps://youtu.be/n7EFiqEyv_c?t=425
scottf200 said:Glad my son could be part of this! He picked his TM3D up last Fri.
Joe6pack said:I also believe that the product cannot be as bad as the shorts would have us believe though my first hand knowledge is limited. But, at some point, the management of this company has to start behaving in a adult manner - and they have to show a real profit. The hype train can only take you so far and they pumped Q3 about as much as a company can pump a quarter before Elon was muzzled. Q4 will be very interesting.
Well, if volunteers would help in delivery, every automaker will take it. As is they have to employ 30,000+ people and pay them a lot of money to deliver cars.Joe6pack said:Can we stop pretending that even if Tesla shows a "profit" on paper that they are actually profitable. What profitable company has to have "volunteers" help deliver product because they haven't invested in the resources to actually get their product to market.
Joe6pack said:Can we stop pretending that even if Tesla shows a "profit" on paper that they are actually profitable. What profitable company has to have "volunteers" help deliver product because they haven't invested in the resources to actually get their product to market. Let's be honest here, the reason Tesla has no competition is that no sane company is willing to lose so much money and to under invest in transportation, logistics, sales, service and warranty reserve. Let's stop pretending that they can fund future growth on sales alone and that there isn't a capital raise coming. The market certainly seems to be pricing something in.
I'm not one of those who believes Tesla is a fraud and has no future. I also believe that the product cannot be as bad as the shorts would have us believe though my first hand knowledge is limited. But, at some point, the management of this company has to start behaving in a adult manner - and they have to show a real profit. The hype train can only take you so far and they pumped Q3 about as much as a company can pump a quarter before Elon was muzzled. Q4 will be very interesting.
https://www.greencarreports.com/new...-production-still-short-of-profitability-goalTesla Model 3 is fifth bestselling car in U.S., production still short of profitability goal
They've been cutting costs where they can (barring the odd $20m for fines), so we'll have to see what the Q3 report says. I think we've got more than enough chaos in our national politics, so it's really helpful that Tesla will now have an independent CoB and some directors with the power to muzzle Elon, and hopefully the turmoil of the past few months is now behind them. It's high time for the company to behave like grownups.Tesla announced Tuesday that it delivered 55,843 Model 3s between July and September, confirming reports that the company's mass-market electric is the fifth bestselling car model in the United States.
That slightly exceeded the number of Model 3s Tesla said it produced in the third quarter: 53,239. It indicates that the company still hasn't approached, at any sustained level over a longer time, chief executive Elon Musk's goal of producing 5,000 of the cars per week. Averaged over the quarter, the production number comes out to 4,295 cars per week.
Musk said in a tweet in May that the company would need to sustain production of 5,000 Model 3s per week to make a profit on the critical car and to survive. . . .
GRA said:so it's really helpful that Tesla will now have an independent CoB and some directors with the power to muzzle Elon, and hopefully the turmoil of the past few months is now behind them.
Sure the fine was a small portion of his wealth (BTW, he owns about 20% of Tesla, not 40%) but the terms of the settlement included:lorenfb said:GRA said:so it's really helpful that Tesla will now have an independent CoB and some directors with the power to muzzle Elon, and hopefully the turmoil of the past few months is now behind them.
Really? And how are you able conclude that? Are you aware that he owns about 40% of Tesla and because of that he'll have
a significant overall influence who is the new chairman/policies and who gets elected to the board, if it's changed at all.
Bottom Line: Elon Musk just lost the title of chairman, .1% of his wealth, and the shareholders lost less than .05% of their wealth.
Most likely more shareholder wealth will have been lost when the Q3 report arrives. Remember, Tesla gave away about $18K
of shareholder wealth with each vehicle sold in Q2. Obviously in Q3, given the M3 volume, it won't be as great, e.g. less than $1K - $2K
per vehicle sold.
I consider it unrealistic to expect the SEC to allow Elon to go on as before with just a slap on the wrist, so I fully expect them to monitor future corporate communications closely.Musk will step down as Tesla’s Chairman and be replaced by an independent Chairman. Musk will be ineligible to be re-elected Chairman for three years;
Tesla will appoint a total of two new independent directors to its board;
Tesla will establish a new committee of independent directors and put in place additional controls and procedures to oversee Musk’s communications
https://insideevs.com/tesla-model-3-sales-pass-toyota-corolla/Tesla Model 3 Races Past Toyota Corolla In U.S. Passenger Car Sales
GRA said:Sure the fine was a small portion of his wealth (BTW, he owns about 20% of Tesla, not 40%) but the terms of the settlement included:lorenfb said:GRA said:so it's really helpful that Tesla will now have an independent CoB and some directors with the power to muzzle Elon, and hopefully the turmoil of the past few months is now behind them.
Really? And how are you able conclude that? Are you aware that he owns about 40% of Tesla and because of that he'll have
a significant overall influence who is the new chairman/policies and who gets elected to the board, if it's changed at all.
Bottom Line: Elon Musk just lost the title of chairman, .1% of his wealth, and the shareholders lost less than .05% of their wealth.
Most likely more shareholder wealth will have been lost when the Q3 report arrives. Remember, Tesla gave away about $18K
of shareholder wealth with each vehicle sold in Q2. Obviously in Q3, given the M3 volume, it won't be as great, e.g. less than $1K - $2K
per vehicle sold.
I consider it unrealistic to expect the SEC to allow Elon to go on as before with just a slap on the wrist, so I fully expect them to monitor future corporate communications closely.Musk will step down as Tesla’s Chairman and be replaced by an independent Chairman. Musk will be ineligible to be re-elected Chairman for three years;
Tesla will appoint a total of two new independent directors to its board;
Tesla will establish a new committee of independent directors and put in place additional controls and procedures to oversee Musk’s communications
GRA said:While this still represents working off the backlog and I don't believe that sales can continue at a similar level once the backlog is gone, it's still very encouraging.
lpickup said:GRA said:While this still represents working off the backlog and I don't believe that sales can continue at a similar level once the backlog is gone, it's still very encouraging.
I wouldn't disagree with this. To some extent, this is just working down the backlog. If Tesla could have produced and delivered 100,000 vehicles in a month, they could have sold and delivered every last one. So yes, there is some truth to the fact that once the backlog is gone, we will see a truer representation of the demand, and it is reasonable to assume that it will be less than the pent up backlog.
Not only that, but without a second factory (not due to come online until 2020), once Tesla decides to open up sales internationally, then there will be supply-constrained limit to what they can allocate to the US as they work through that pent up international backlog. Even at steady state, and assuming they are successful in expanding production to 10K Model 3's out of Fremont, this would suggest a supply cap of about 22K/month for US sales.
On the other hand, I think that getting all those backlog vehicles into driveways across the country will in turn spur plenty of additional demand as neighbors start to hear anecdotes about the car and the cars start becoming more visible and recognizable (and thus acceptable) on the road. And for sure this is putting the cart before the horse, but as the car becomes more popular, one would think that political pressure might develop to ease the laws that prevent Tesla from opening additional (or even any) stores in certain states which would remove yet another barrier to demand.
Of course all of this may pale in comparison to the potential demand for the unannounced Model Y which still appears to be quite some time out (which again, is "fortunate" since Tesla doesn't have a place to build them yet anyway).
lorenfb said:Remember, there're competitive threats on the horizon in 2019, e.g. corporate VW.
palmermd said:lorenfb said:Remember, there're competitive threats on the horizon in 2019, e.g. corporate VW.
I'm curious what car you see getting released by VW in 2019 that will be a threat to Model 3.
but we're not talking years you said 2019 which means the car would come out between now and a year from nowlorenfb said:palmermd said:lorenfb said:Remember, there're competitive threats on the horizon in 2019, e.g. corporate VW.
I'm curious what car you see getting released by VW in 2019 that will be a threat to Model 3.
Most all other automotive manufacturers are not like Telsa announcing vehicles, e.g. the M3/MY, years ahead before volume deliveries
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