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Re: Official Honda Clarity FCEV/BEV/PHEV thread

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:13 pm
by GRA
Via IEVS: July Clarity FCEV sales/leases 82, 376 YTD. Clarity BEV sales/leases 34, in their initial month. See my comments in either the Mirai topic re the likely impact of the big battery Model 3 on future FCEV sales prospects: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=17145&p=500798#p500798 or in more detail in the CA. H2 station topic: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=21315&p=500610#p500610

Re: Official Honda Clarity FCEV/BEV/PHEV thread

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:37 pm
by GetOffYourGas
THe Clarity BEV actually outsold the Model 3 in July! Now there's a meaningless statistic for Honda to spin!

Re: Official Honda Clarity FCEV/BEV/PHEV thread

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:13 pm
by GRA
GetOffYourGas wrote:THe Clarity BEV actually outsold the Model 3 in July! Now there's a meaningless statistic for Honda to spin!

Even Honda seems to realize that the BEV Clarity is going nowhere, and their defense of its 89 mile range as enough seems to be pro forma.

Re: Official Honda Clarity FCEV/BEV/PHEV thread

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:24 am
by Valdemar
Finally a BEV that I could drive with comfort without having to take a second mortgage. Sadly the 25kWh pack doesn't cut it for me, such a shame.

Re: Official Honda Clarity FCEV/BEV/PHEV thread

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:52 pm
by GRA
For anyone that cares about the BEV, via GCC:
Honda Clarity Electric in California and Oregon dealerships; $269/mo
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2017/08/20170805-clarity.html

The 2017 Honda Clarity Electric sedan arrived at the beginning of August in select dealerships in California and Oregon. With an introductory lease price of $269 (plus tax) a month for 36 months, the lease terms include an allowance of 20,000 miles per year and 24/7 roadside assistance. (Earlier post.)

The lease, which reflects a federal tax credit built in, requires $1,730 down plus the first month’s lease payment due at signing (not including tax, registration or official fees). In addition, if they apply, California and Oregon customers may qualify for their state’s rebates of $2,500 once they become available.

The Clarity Electric sedan is powered by a 120kW electric motor producing 221 lb-ft of torque and drawing power from a 25.5-kWh lithium-ion battery pack. The vehicle can be fully charged in just over three hours at 240 volts and when using DC fast charging with the SAE Combined Charging System, it can achieve an 80% charge in 30 minutes. The Clarity Electric has an EPA fuel economy rating of 126/103/114 MPGe (city/highway/combined)3 and an EPA range rating of 89 miles on a full charge. . . .

Yesterday was noteworthy for sighting two Clarity FCEVs, and I wasn't even near the H2 station.

Re: Official Honda Clarity FCEV/BEV/PHEV thread

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 4:41 pm
by GRA
I don't think I saw this interview when it was originally published, but am linking it now because there's a lot of good discussion in it. In particular, IMO, Steve Center seems to have a pretty clear idea of how things are likely to develop over the next five years, and along with him, I think the PHEV has potential if Honda can keep the price down to no more than $35k (but preferably less):
Honda Clarity Q&A: Midsize Plug-In Hybrid From $35,000 (Or So)
http://insideevs.com/honda-clarity-midsize-42-mpg/

Re: Official Honda Clarity FCEV/BEV/PHEV thread

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:20 pm
by rmay635703
Add to the mix the next gen Honda Insight mule with Accord PHEV guts is testing in the Euro zone in a piecemeal Honda City

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ca.motor1. ... spied/amp/

Re: Official Honda Clarity FCEV/BEV/PHEV thread

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 5:24 pm
by GRA
Seems to me the most likely explanation is just a test mule for autonomous driving sensors and related systems.

Re: Official Honda Clarity FCEV/BEV/PHEV thread

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:35 pm
by GRA
Per IEVS, 56 Clarity FCEVs were leased in August (432 YTD), and approx. 15 BEVs.

Re: Official Honda Clarity FCEV/BEV/PHEV thread

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 4:54 pm
by GRA
Edmunds has a Clarity FCEV under long-term test: https://www.edmunds.com/honda/clarity/2017/long-term-road-test/mpg.html