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Re: SDG&E Energy Waves

Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:46 pm

ENIAC wrote:Do you have the GE digital (non-smart) meter? If so, have they read it at least once? They connect to the meter and fetch all the data. This is then loaded for billing. At that point the Energy Waves application can display it.

I think it's an itron smart meter... I'll check later...
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Re: SDG&E Energy Waves

Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:26 pm

It's the other way around.. the iTron OpenWay meters are networked. ("Smart" in weird utility parlance.)

The GE kV2 meters are actually smarter, but not networked. They have to send a meter reader to your house to read the GE, over the optical interface.

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Re: SDG&E Energy Waves

Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:21 pm

ENIAC wrote:With your smart meter, you can use the Google PowerMeter application and get daily updates in 10 minute intervals. But once you get your LEAF, and go with the EV ToU tariff, SDG&E replaces your smart meter with a non-smart GE meter. They also use that same style of meter on your EV circuit. So the main meter sees all the usage and they subtract the usage from the EV meter to determine your bill. Energy Waves is the only way to get your detailed data from those GE meters.


Do you have a document from SDG&E that describes how to accomplish the meter subtraction installation, i.e., a set of installation standards for meters used with EVSE? Neither PG&E or SCE have this option and I'm trying to convince PG&E that they should allow it. It would save us a bunch of money relative to having a 2nd service main (or branch main) installed.
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Re: SDG&E Energy Waves

Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:16 am

gascant wrote:
ENIAC wrote:With your smart meter, you can use the Google PowerMeter application and get daily updates in 10 minute intervals. But once you get your LEAF, and go with the EV ToU tariff, SDG&E replaces your smart meter with a non-smart GE meter. They also use that same style of meter on your EV circuit. So the main meter sees all the usage and they subtract the usage from the EV meter to determine your bill. Energy Waves is the only way to get your detailed data from those GE meters.


Do you have a document from SDG&E that describes how to accomplish the meter subtraction installation, i.e., a set of installation standards for meters used with EVSE? Neither PG&E or SCE have this option and I'm trying to convince PG&E that they should allow it. It would save us a bunch of money relative to having a 2nd service main (or branch main) installed.
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Re: SDG&E Energy Waves

Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:27 pm

Google PowerMeter being defunct, and not having a TED, I was excited to get an email today from SDG&E announcing availability of our net metering smart meter interval data online...this is now part of the regular electric meter account, not the old energy waves site. Here's a sample at 15-minute resolution showing overnight, daytime solar excess generation, evening cooking/TV, and Leaf charge:

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Re: SDG&E Energy Waves

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wsbca wrote:I was excited to get an email today from SDG&E announcing availability of our net metering smart meter interval data online...this is now part of the regular electric meter account, not the old energy waves site.

Nice! I haven't gotten the email and checked my account - couldn't find anything like that.

Do you have a separate EV meter, too?
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Re: SDG&E Energy Waves

Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:04 pm

drees wrote:
wsbca wrote:I was excited to get an email today from SDG&E announcing availability of our net metering smart meter interval data online...this is now part of the regular electric meter account, not the old energy waves site.

Nice! I haven't gotten the email and checked my account - couldn't find anything like that.

Do you have a separate EV meter, too?


No, we stuck with the single meter and schedule DR for the project, which may have something to do with why this feature is available for us - we have the "regular" new net metering smart meter that was put in last January. When I log in to My Account, the tab this is under is "My Energy", which presents a link called Energy Charts. It seems a little buggy (sometimes goes to an error page.)

We got our original smart meter in mid-2010 along with everyone else, which was then swapped back out for an analog meter just a few weeks later when our solar system went live, then we got a net-metering capable smart meter in January, after having declined the second meter for the EV project. And, at that time, that new net metering smart meter couldn't participate in google powermeter or my energy but they said eventually there would be data available from it, and here we are.
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Re: SDG&E Energy Waves

Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:06 pm

I also have SDG&E's standard net metering with PV (one meter).

Where do you look to find this graph of your 15-minute net-usage intervals?
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Re: SDG&E Energy Waves

Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:34 pm

Just got the SDG&E email.

Go to www.ssge.com web site, choose "My Account",
log in, choose My Energy ... charts.

Only 3 days of data so far, including yesterday, but not today.
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Re: SDG&E Energy Waves

Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:38 pm

Mine says "no data available".

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