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TonyWilliams
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Re: Range Chart

Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:17 pm

garsh wrote:I'm at ~200 GIDs at full charge.
According to this (old? out-of-date?) chart, my battery should be at 8 bars.
I'm still at 10 bars.


The chart that you referenced is clearly marked for a 100% capacity. That's not you. There are other charts, like these one. You need to be below 66% to win the new battery.


Use this 75% chart for a battery that has 10 of 12 capacity bar segments.

Use this 69% chart for a battery that has 9 of 12 capacity bar segments.

Use this 63% chart for a battery that has 8 of 12 capacity bar segments.

garsh
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Re: Range Chart

Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:38 pm

Sorry, I was misinterpreting. Thanks for setting me straight.
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TimLee
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Re: Range Chart

Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:06 pm

garsh wrote:I'm at ~200 GIDs at full charge.
According to this (old? out-of-date?) chart, my battery should be at 8 bars.
I'm still at 10 bars.
...

You're confusing Status of Charge Bars and Capacity Bars.

The range chart has nothing to do with Capacity Bars.

It is using Status of Charge bars.

There is NO correlation between the two.

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Re: Range Chart

Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:36 am

TonyWilliams wrote:Addendum: For the 30kWh LEAF, and assuming a warm battery (over 70F/20C temperature) and level roads with zero cabin heater use, no headwinds:

------------------------------65mph-------------70mph-------------75mph-------------80mph
--------------------------3.9 miles/kWh---3.6miles/kWh---3.3miles/kWh---2.9miles/kWh
--------------------------- RANGE--------------- RANGE------------- RANGE----------- RANGE
100% -- 26.5kWh------103---------------------95---------------------87------------------77


Image

Tony, were you off by a cell? In your .jpg version for 24 kWh Leafs, you list 60 mph as being 3.9 miles/kWh and 82 miles. 1.262 * 82 = 103.484, but that was for 60 mph, not 65 mph.

3.9 miles/kWh doesn't sound right for 65 mph.

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Re: Range Chart

Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:47 am

The original chart was purposely conservative.

The LEAF will do 4.0 at 65mph with the original Bridgestone tires, and only a little less (3.9) with the Michelins.

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Re: Range Chart

Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:09 pm

TonyWilliams wrote:The original chart was purposely conservative.

The LEAF will do 4.0 at 65mph with the original Bridgestone tires, and only a little less (3.9) with the Michelins.

Ok, gotcha. It had looked like you were off by a cell.

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SageBrush
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Re: Range Chart

Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:57 am

Tony,

What does "controlling" mean, in the sentence

'The Mile/kWh value in red below is controlling, NOT speed'
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Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California with 63.9 Ahr after 22k miles
Car is now enjoying an easy life in Colorado

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Re: Range Chart

Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:13 am

Ahh...to dream! Brings back memories of when all we had were these charts...
2011 Blue Ocean SV w/floor mats & window tint
12v LiFePO4 battery & FIAMM 74100 horns
Wet Okole seat covers (front)
Tor's low-power heater mod
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Re: Range Chart

Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:35 am

Stanton wrote:Ahh...to dream! Brings back memories of when all we had were these charts...


Indeed we are much better off now. My rule of thumb while driving was to assign 7 miles per bar if I drove carefully, or 5 miles per bar on the interstate. I also used the hrs:mins to full charge at 120v on the dash to predict when a bar was about to go out and should therefore not be counted into my DTE estimate.

Now a quick glance at LEAFspy pro is all that's needed.
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103,000 Miles.
Lost 5 Capacity bars
7/18/13 (29,206), 8/25/14 (51,728), 7/12/15 (71.108), 5/12/16 (88,362), 10/17/16 (96,532)
New Battery 12/3/16 (98,956)

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