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Re: Price to retrofit a used 2011-2015 Leaf with a new 30 kWh (or higher) battery?

Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:05 pm

jhm614 wrote:
Valdemar wrote:
    OrientExpress wrote:According to my inside sources at Nissan, a 30Kwh pack upgrade will cost approximately $34K minus the core trade-in on your existing pack.


    You mean to buy a new pack? Ouch. I hope this is a typo...


    I have a feeling OE is implying that the way to get the 30Kwh pack is to buy a new Leaf....


    Oh-oh, does it mean we can't even keep the "core" ? :shock:
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    Re: Price to retrofit a used 2011-2015 Leaf with a new 30 kWh (or higher) battery?

    Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:15 pm

    Yes the $34K new pack price includes new ancillary systems, and the old pack must be traded In with its older systems still attached.
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    Re: Price to retrofit a used 2011-2015 Leaf with a new 30 kWh (or higher) battery?

    Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:01 am

    Eventually someone (maybe even Tesla) will sell you a 30kW (or higher) replacement pack. What that will cost and when that will be available is an open question.
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    Re: Price to retrofit a used 2011-2015 Leaf with a new 30 kWh (or higher) battery?

    Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:15 am

    forummm wrote:Eventually someone (maybe even Tesla) will sell you a 30kW (or higher) replacement pack. What that will cost and when that will be available is an open question.


    I'll need to convince my yet to be born grandchildren to keep the Leaf to find out if this statement is true.
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    Re: Price to retrofit a used 2011-2015 Leaf with a new 30 kWh (or higher) battery?

    Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:57 am

    OrientExpress wrote:According to my inside sources at Nissan, a 30Kwh pack upgrade will cost approximately $34K minus the core trade-in on your existing pack.


    Did they hire Mark Perry back? That's his kind of humor.
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    Re: Price to retrofit a used 2011-2015 Leaf with a new 30 kWh (or higher) battery?

    Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:20 am

    mwalsh wrote:
    OrientExpress wrote:According to my inside sources at Nissan, a 30Kwh pack upgrade will cost approximately $34K minus the core trade-in on your existing pack.


    Did they hire Mark Perry back? That's his kind of humor.


    This sort of humor is always fun with a divide by zero audience. :D
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    Re: Price to retrofit a used 2011-2015 Leaf with a new 30 kWh (or higher) battery?

    Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:40 am

    Stoaty wrote:In another thread Tony Williams expressed the conviction that the 30 kwh packs would be available to retrofit in older Leafs. I don't know what his reasoning was.


    Thanks, good to know.
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    Re: Price to retrofit a used 2011-2015 Leaf with a new 30 kWh (or higher) battery?

    Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:58 pm

    As to the rest of this:

    Sure, Nissan will have thought this through and might in theory have taken a decision not to allow paid 30 kWh retrofits. If they did make that decision, would that be the last word on the matter? It wasn't on the 24 kWh paid battery replacements (which were not allowed at first, but then were).

    I will also be curious to see if Nissan or the dealers choose to retrofit the cars with 30 kWh (or more) themselves and then sell them.
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    Re: Price to retrofit a used 2011-2015 Leaf with a new 30 kWh (or higher) battery?

    Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:36 am

    The one thing people seem to have forgotten is that most of the money dealerships and manufacturers make anymore is on maintenance servicing, and parts. I would think Nissan would allow the 30kwh packs to be retrofit if you pay for it. Either way you look at it they are taking a loss. Whether it is on the sale of the car, or the sale of the current 24kwh battery pack at $5400. We will have to wait and see for an official determination though. Personally I hope so. If not then I will be happy with a 24kwh lizard pack. However that 9-11 hour recharge time would be about the only drawback I could think of for me going to a 30kwh pack. So there will be reasons to lure people to get a new Leaf if they so choose.
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    Re: Price to retrofit a used 2011-2015 Leaf with a new 30 kWh (or higher) battery?

    Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:13 am

    Roadburner440 wrote:However that 9-11 hour recharge time would be about the only drawback I could think of for me going to a 30kwh pack. So there will be reasons to lure people to get a new Leaf if they so choose.


    I think you're overestimating that charge time. If I can charge my 24 kWh pack in < 5 hours (L2), then a 30 kWh pack shouldn't be more than 7-8. I will be happy to get my 24 kWh "lizard" replacement pack, but the reality is eventually Nissan will stop making (2) versions of the battery pack and only 30 kWh will be sold. However, that should take at least another year since they are selling a 24 kWh 2016 "S" version.
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