greengate
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The Autobarn in Evanston just had a DC/QC charger delivered…soon to be installed.
Stay tuned for the where and the how.
Great folks there.
Stay tuned for the where and the how.
Great folks there.
Had no idea…thanks for the info.planet4ever said:Sorry to be a grumpy old man, but I don't like your thread title. A bunch of people here are calling Quick Chargers "Level 3" or "L3" but they are not!
Level 3 is a term created by the SAE -- you know, the folks that are fighting the CHAdeMO standard that Nissans and other Asian cars use. The SAE says Level 3 applies to both AC and DC charging at a higher rate than currently exists. Even their "Frankenplug" does not qualify as a Level 3 charging system component. Take a look at their definition: http://www.sae.org/smartgrid/chargingspeeds.pdf
Note that DC Level 3 requires 0% to 80% charging in less than 10 minutes.
So, please, if you want to talk about fast DC charging for a LEAF, call it DC Quick Charge, or DC/QC or QC.
Ray
Cared for.garygid said:Edit the first post, and you can also edit its title,
which is also the title of the thread. It is easy for
the author of the first post.
greengate said:The Autobarn in Evanston just had a DC/QC charger delivered…soon to be installed.
Stay tuned for the where and the how.
Great folks there.
r1234567 said:Is it available to anyone or just those who purchased from there?
I had a bad experience trying to purchase from them.
r1234567 said:Sorry, I wasn't clear. I was asking if the QC was for any Leaf owner or just those who purchased from them.
I contacted Autobarn of Evanston when I was purchasing my Leaf but they wouldn't respond to my inquires so I bought from a different dealer in the area (Rosen Nissan).
Thank you for pointing to this. However, I must say thatkubel said:There's nothing incorrect about OP referring to DC quick charging as "Level 3". CARB classified the levels of charging way back in 2001 (http://www.arb.ca.gov/board/books/010628/01-5-1.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false, and under that classification, Level 3 includes any off-board DC charging system that is capable of recharging at least 50% of the capacity of a battery pack in no more than 30 minutes.
Clearly the SAE has changed that definition, as the chart I pointed to shows. I see indications in more recent reports, like this one, that CARB is backing away from the Level 1/2/3 terminology. I really don't think we should base our usage on an obviously obsolete document which in turn was based on another obsolete document.SAE Recommended Practices for Conductive Charging (J1772 adopted October 1996) defines Level 3 conductive charging as a direct current connected charging method with an off-board charger at any power level. It does not require or specify the minimum power capacity of a Level 3 charger, and Level 3 chargers may have lower power capacity than Level 2 chargers.
r1234567 said:Do you work for Autobarn of Evanston?
You sent me a PM telling me to contact the sales manager who is the gentleman who ignored my email from his co-worker. Autobarn didn't want my business so I went to Rosen.
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