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Re: $1,000 under invoice for 2012 Nissan Leaf - Chicago/Mid-

Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:00 pm

kubel wrote:Also, remember that factory invoice price INCLUDES destination, so if they advertise $1000 less than invoice and then charge you destination on top of that, they are double dipping.

We should also question what is being charged for doc fees, and what options the dealer has equipped the car with. Places like Fontana load their LEAFs down with every imaginable dealer option, which helps them with their $x-thousands-below-MSRP offer. They also won't ship the car unless it's paid in cash.

Edmunds usually breaks out the base price and destination charge as separate line items in both the invoice and MSRP columns.

As for doc fees, that can vary a lot. See http://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/what- ... u-pay.html. Yes, one needs to compare dealer options or forced standard options/accessories (e.g. when I got my 06 Prius, it was hard to get them w/o Toyota's (not free) floor mats).

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Re: $1,000 under invoice for 2012 Nissan Leaf - Chicago/Mid-

Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:25 pm

Isn't a kWh about 6-7 cents in Chicago = 200 MPG if you drive a Left there. I assume it would include the cold weather package
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Re: $1,000 under invoice for 2012 Nissan Leaf - Chicago/Mid-

Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:00 pm

This week's Sunday Chicago Tribune auto section has a new LEAF for $10,000 discount off MSRP from Woodfield Nissan; of course when you go to their site it shows two in stock but no reference to the $10K off list price; one at full MSRP and another at about $300 off list ... so what car is this for and why even indicate a $10K discount?? In any case kind of puts the $1K under invoice claim to shame. Perhaps it references the $7,500 fed tax credit as well as the 10% MSRP up to $4K from the IL EPA but nothing in the 'fine print' at the bottom; I've got mine but others shopping may at least want to check it out


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Re: $1,000 under invoice for 2012 Nissan Leaf - Chicago/Mid-

Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:39 pm

redLEAF wrote:This week's Sunday Chicago Tribune auto section has a new LEAF for $10,000 discount off MSRP from Woodfield Nissan; of course when you go to their site it shows two in stock but no reference to the $10K off list price; one at full MSRP and another at about $300 off list ... so what car is this for and why even indicate a $10K discount?? In any case kind of puts the $1K under invoice claim to shame. Perhaps it references the $7,500 fed tax credit as well as the 10% MSRP up to $4K from the IL EPA but nothing in the 'fine print' at the bottom;
I'll bet a bunch the 10K counts the $7,500 tax credit. A Chevy dealer out this way was advertising Volts with a hefty "discount", but it was the tax credit. Shame on them, but they have no scruples so it doesn't matter to them what we think.
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Re: $1,000 under invoice for 2012 Nissan Leaf - Chicago/Mid-

Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:50 pm

ebill3 wrote:I'll bet a bunch the 10K counts the $7,500 tax credit. A Chevy dealer out this way was advertising Volts with a hefty "discount", but it was the tax credit. Shame on them, but they have no scruples so it doesn't matter to them what we think.

This is false advertising, bordering on fraud... sounds like business as usual for many car dealers. If it is really $10,000 off MSRP, the dealer should chip in the $7500, which he may not get back if the buyer doesn't make enough to qualify for the whole credit.
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Re: $1,000 under invoice for 2012 Nissan Leaf - Chicago/Mid-

Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:36 pm

If it's lease-only ... then they are much closer to the truth.
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Re: $1,000 under invoice for 2012 Nissan Leaf - Chicago/Mid-

Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:21 pm

If I still needed a LEAF and a local was advertising this 10k off I would be tempted go in with cash and put his feet to the fire.
I don't think you can legally hold them to it. Ad is just an invitation to make an offer.
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Re: $1,000 under invoice for 2012 Nissan Leaf - Chicago/Mid-

Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:02 am

As an example, for the 2012 Nissan Leaf that we have in stock
MSRP - $38,270
Invoice - $36,684

Sale Price - $35,684

At this price you can lease a 2012 Leaf for $399 for 39mo/12k miles with only your first payment down! All your taxes and registration are included, your total down payment is only $399.

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