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SageBrush said:The Model 3 starts at $36k delivered. Other than the glass roof which I am going to buy as an extravagance, in my opinion the only option I would really miss in the base package is DRCC. The 40 kWh LEAF is ball-park the same price as a model 3 with DRCC, so to me one choice could be between a markedly inferior EV with DRCC Vs a much better EV without DRCC.EatsShootsandLeafs said:The Leaf is a decent hatchback that would fit in well with other hatch backs like a Golf or a subaru imprezza. But, the Model 3 doesn't look out of place parked next to a BMW or a Lexus IS. Different class of car, really. The model 3 will clearly be more expensive, because it's a ton more car.
The bottom line: I cannot imagine buying a new LEAF. The silver lining is that their inferior battery tech leads to depreciation that outpaces the actual loss of performance so a used LEAF can be a good deal for an informed consumer.
I think the high depreciation rates of BEVs is not only tied to the battery capacity utilization but also to limited driving range for earlier models (with newer ones coming out with longer ranges) as well as the eight-year warranty on the battery where it's the great unknown on the ninth year.
How long do you keep your cars, what about the Model S you have and the 3 you are getting? If I were to lease a BEV and leasing and financing rates were similar, I would hands down lease a Model 3 (nothing to worry about post-warranty issues) but then I'm the type who holds on to cars as if they were dear life and don't dispose of them unless it will cost me an arm and leg to keep them running.
I think think the perceived higher reliability of the Leaf (besides the battery) and that the battery degradation on this 40 kWh Leaf that has yet to be proven is keeping some long-term buyers on Nissan's court.