LeftieBiker
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Delivery Date: 31 May 2013
Location: Upstate New York, US

Re: Hello everyone

Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:09 am

With the US-assembled leafs there is a sharp changeover in battery chemistry, with the old, easily-degraded chemistry used through March of 2013, but ending with April 2013, when a better "formula" was used. I have no idea when the changeover to a more resistant chemistry occurred in European Leafs...
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium Package and no QC, and 2009 Vectrix VX-1 with 18 Leaf cells.

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Lancpudn
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Joined: Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:17 pm
Delivery Date: 27 Jan 2017
Location: Lancashire UK

Re: Hello everyone

Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:42 am

LeftieBiker wrote:With the US-assembled leafs there is a sharp changeover in battery chemistry, with the old, easily-degraded chemistry used through March of 2013, but ending with April 2013, when a better "formula" was used. I have no idea when the changeover to a more resistant chemistry occurred in European Leafs...



Hi LeftBiker, Thank you for that information, that's a good piece of information to know. :) I'm slowly making my way through all the information on this site to give me a better understanding of what to buy.

As others have said about the technology improving & getting cheaper in the not too distant future I'm hoping that if the worst came to the worst & I ever needed a new/reconditioned replacement battery cell down the road it wouldn't cost a small fortune. :)

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DNAinaGoodWay
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Joined: Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:43 am
Delivery Date: 03 Dec 2012
Leaf Number: 23156
Location: Central Massachusetts

Re: Hello everyone

Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:42 am

Best of luck to you. Degradation is minimal in your climate. You shouldn't have any problems.
'12 SL last reading @ 2 yr, 22k, 260 GIDs, 62.35 Ahr

'15 SV w/QC, Mfd 5/14, Leased 8/14, 292 GIDs, 64.38 Ahr when new

@ 25 months, 25k, 267 GID, 56.88 AHr
@ 36 months, 34k, 270 GID, 57.49 AHr


6.72 kW Array

Lancpudn
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Location: Lancashire UK

Re: Hello everyone

Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:26 am

DNAinaGoodWay wrote:Best of luck to you. Degradation is minimal in your climate. You shouldn't have any problems.



Thanks :) Yeah rarely see temps past the low 70's in Summer here, we get wall to wall battleship grey clouds all year & rains a lot too :lol: I cant wait to put up my new leaf thread. :D

Lancpudn
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Re: Hello everyone

Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:26 am

Lancpudn wrote:
DNAinaGoodWay wrote:Best of luck to you. Degradation is minimal in your climate. You shouldn't have any problems.



Thanks :) Yeah rarely see temps past the low 70's in Summer here, we get wall to wall battleship grey clouds all year round & rains a lot too :lol: I cant wait to put up my new leaf thread. :D

Lancpudn
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Re: Hello everyone

Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:27 am

Lancpudn wrote:
Lancpudn wrote:
DNAinaGoodWay wrote:Best of luck to you. Degradation is minimal in your climate. You shouldn't have any problems.



Thanks :) Yeah rarely see temps past the low 70's in Summer here, we get wall to wall battleship grey clouds all year round & it rains a lot too :lol: I cant wait to put up my new leaf owner thread. :D

Lancpudn
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Re: Hello everyone

Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:27 am

Lancpudn wrote:
Lancpudn wrote:
Lancpudn wrote:

Thanks :) Yeah rarely see temps past the low 70'sF in Summer here, we get wall to wall battleship grey clouds all year round & it rains a lot too :lol: I cant wait to put up my new leaf owner thread. :D

RonDawg
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Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:46 am
Delivery Date: 11 Jan 2013
Leaf Number: 027089
Location: SoCal

Re: Hello everyone

Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:12 am

jjeff wrote:Interesting about your option to lease batteries. I believe there was some talk about that a while back but AFAIK nothing ever materialized.


Nissan USA had contemplated such a move, until they saw the huge outcry on this forum. However the Smart ED is/was available with a battery lease option in this country.
Blue Ocean 2012 Leaf SV, lost that 1st bar on 11/21/2015 at 26,435 miles.
Lease returned on 12/23/2015. Final LeafStat figures: 225 Gids, 17.44 kWH, SOC 91.89%, SOH 82.36%, 69.49% HX, 54.57 Ahr, battery temp 61.8 F
Now driving a 2015 VW eGolf SEL

Lancpudn
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Re: Hello everyone

Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:35 am

RonDawg wrote:
jjeff wrote:Interesting about your option to lease batteries. I believe there was some talk about that a while back but AFAIK nothing ever materialized.


Nissan USA had contemplated such a move, until they saw the huge outcry on this forum. However the Smart ED is/was available with a battery lease option in this country.



Yeah I'm don't think I'm going to buy a secondhand leaf & get stuck with a 'Flex' battery lease monthly payment between £70 & £ 93 depending on mileage for my entire ownership of the car.

I see dealers trying to sell these 'Flex' cars offering a free home charger installed & the first 6 months flex payments paid just to get them off their lots.

I should imagine trying to sell a 'flex' lease car privately to be quite difficult.

Lancpudn
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Re: Hello everyone

Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:54 am

Am I right in thinking that a Leaf with very little mileage is as bad as a Leaf with high mileage! I've seen a 2014 E Acenta leaf with less than 2000 miles on the clock for sale near me, that seems very low mileage for a two year old car.

I may go & have a look at it.

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