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2013 SL vs 2015 S w/upgraded charger

Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:48 am

Hello I’m new to the form just want to get some good opinions. Looking at upgrading my current leave 2013 SV with no fast charger to either a 2013 SL which currently has all 12 bars on the battery or a 2015 S with the fast charging system again all 12 bars. I have an L2 installed in the garage. The fast charger is my main concern as I’m a stay at home parent with two toddlers and want the freedom of driving to the beach and being able to fast charge instead of waiting on a L1 or L2 away from home. This is my first forum question so please forgive me if this has already been answered.

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Re: 2013 SL vs 2015 S w/upgraded charger

Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:03 am

I think what you mean is that you are considering a LEAF that has a 6.6kW charger vs. the one you have that has the older and slower 3.3kW charger.

The more powerful charger will cut the charge time for your LEAF in half which is a good thing, but if you charge at night, it really does not matter.

The main issue is what year of used LEAF to consider. I would recommend that you only consider 2014 or later SV or SL trim level. These cars have a more reliable battery, the more powerful charger, and also a host of improved features like beter HVAC, suspension, charger, etc. The price delta between one of these cars and an earlier one is minimal too.

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Re: 2013 SL vs 2015 S w/upgraded charger

Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:32 am

I really appreciate the info

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Re: 2013 SL vs 2015 S w/upgraded charger

Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:49 am

I think what you mean is that you are considering a LEAF that has a 6.6kW charger vs. the one you have that has the older and slower 3.3kW charger.


Please try to get your facts right, Orient. The 2013 and newer SV and SL Leafs all have the 6.6 charger.
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Re: 2013 SL vs 2015 S w/upgraded charger

Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:09 pm

and '13 models post 3/'13 have the better battery chemistry :)
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Re: 2013 SL vs 2015 S w/upgraded charger

Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:18 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:Please try to get your facts right, Orient. The 2013 and newer SV and SL Leafs all have the 6.6 charger.


My facts are always correct, I don't recommend the 2013 cars.
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Re: 2013 SL vs 2015 S w/upgraded charger

Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:18 pm

OrientExpress wrote:
LeftieBiker wrote:Please try to get your facts right, Orient. The 2013 and newer SV and SL Leafs all have the 6.6 charger.


My facts are always correct, I don't recommend the 2013 cars.


The OP has a 2013 SV and you told them it has the 3.3 charger. Sometimes admitting a mistake really is the least embarrassing thing to do.
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Re: 2013 SL vs 2015 S w/upgraded charger

Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:24 pm

I would consider a fast charge port essential if you are purchasing. Even if you think you don't need it today, degradation may require it tomorrow.
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Re: 2013 SL vs 2015 S w/upgraded charger

Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:01 pm

I could be wrong, but I think the OP is referring to DCQC, not 6.6 kWh charging.

I personally don't think mileage matters at all. It's all about the battery health.

Chances are, the 2015 battery is in better shape, but Leaf Spy will provide a definitive answer.

I personally would buy a 2013 SV with QC package over a 2015 S with QC, assuming the battery health is similar as the SV has some nice extras.
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Re: 2013 SL vs 2015 S w/upgraded charger

Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:30 pm

I could be wrong, but I think the OP is referring to DCQC, not 6.6 kWh charging.


Yes, and Orient Express then decided it was about the onboard charger, and proceeded to give the wrong info on what charger the OP has.
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