jadman
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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:13 am

when my SOC reads 56% with an average of 4.3 miles/Kwh my range shows 50 miles in warm weather. If I calculate the range I get 57 miles. Does this tell me anything about my battery condition? Dash is showing 12 bars still on my 2013 leaf with 39,000 miles.
2017 LEAF SV, Pearl White, 60 miles, but still getting a Model 3 as well :ugeek:

pinkbutterfly10
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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:34 pm

2012 bought last year with 30,000+ miles from Duarte Nissan in Duarte, CA. $9,100.00 cash. 10/12 bars. GOM usually says 64-82 miles charged. 40 mile range on freeway. Don't use the air or the heater EVER. Have had to use the seat and steering wheel warmer to be able to drive-fingers were stiff from the cold.... Gonna be long hot summer here is So Cal. 60 mile range on streets MOST of the time. Have gotten down to just lines more times than I can count. But still haven't had to call a tow truck. I took it in because I couldn't get anywhere-they had it for a week and told me that I can get the mileage if I baby it? What 35 on the fwy? I'm driving 55 on the fwy with people honking at me and giving me the finger.
Have been lied to by Nissan from day one. The Nissan EV dept. says I don't own the car and that I have to prove it?? Was given a charger with the car that I couldn't plug in at my place... Was told that I could charge for free at Nissan dealers... Salesman said it would get 80-100 miles...
Was in downtown LA when I found out that my Carwings didn't work anymore... Have to rent a car about once a month to get where I need to go...
Didn't know one thing about electric cars--well that has changed! I still like my little Leaf-but probably would not have bought it if I had been told the truth about the vehicle. It's been an experience.
On the plus side, now I buy and sell EV chargers so am making a little $ on the side-one of the first things I learned was that you need a back-up charger-and so does every other EV owner. And the zero emissons of course. :D
If you're looking for a charger contact me!

LeftieBiker
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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:11 pm

Don't use the air or the heater EVER.


You should be able to use the A/C, with the temp set up around 78F and the fan on Low or 2. All Leafs of all years have minimal range loss with A/C use. Your heater is another matter: if you don't already have a Heat Off switch installed, you need one.
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium Package and no QC, and 2009 Vectrix VX-1 with 18 Leaf cells.

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webb14leafs
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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Wed May 17, 2017 6:48 am

I have a 2014 S with ~86% SOH and 16,000 miles. Purchased it two months ago.

For the most part my range is pretty much as estimated/marketed, which is 0.86 X 84miles = 72 miles in South Florida I use the AC in the afternoons (set at 74F), and generally don't try too hard to conserve energy. I'm a natural feather-foot though, so that helps.

My daily commute is 42 miles round trip - with ~15 miles between 55-70mph, 10 miles between 35-55mph, and the rest above 70mph on the freeway. Takes exactly 60% charge to do this.

When I bought the car I had to drive it 60 miles back home on the freeway. I got behind a truck and stuck to the speed limit. Made it home with around 7% battery left. That was a stressful introduction to range anxiety.

On a trip this week I drove 44 miles of mixed speeds btwn 35-55mph on exactly 51% charge. I only had 60% to start out, so I really watched my acceleration and kept the AC off.

Weekend around town driving (<45 mph) can easily yield greater than 100 miles and > 5 miles per kWhr if I use simple hypermiling techniques that allowed me to get 40mpg or better on my old saturn. I usually don't worry about it unless I'm challenging myself, though. The car's too fun to drive.

Pawman
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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:17 pm

I'm in uk and have been testing my 2017 reg leaf tekna done 150 miles so far and average about 4.7m/kwh though have been above 5. As a little test today I took the leaf out on 100% charge and used the hilliest route up from me to a moors road then back home 31 miles used 21% battery. I use b mode + eco and to be fair these country roads don't let you get above 55 at best. But so far on this drive and others I am seeing a genuine potential for 130 plus miles eg extrapolating today's figures over 100% would equal 147 miles.
In uk tekna uses 17" wheels and has a lower drag coefficient .28 as opposed to .29 on all other models and a slightly higher top speed of 89mph rather than 88.mph so it may factor in. Also the 3rd blue dash light was still flashing so may have been under 100% charged by small amount 1 or 2 percent.
Don't get me wrong I don't judge by the guessometer at all as but had 10 bars still showing though suspect 10 will disappear in around 5 or 6 miles.
Next week I am driving from Middlesbrough to Scarborough which is a 94 mile round trip be very hilly be interested in the half way point to see what percentage battery used and left for return. Will start at 100% proper.

BillCT
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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:04 am

So I've been doing research. My wife, and I are looking into buying a Leaf. We have an offer for a 2014 SV with 25 K on it for $12,500 out the door. My question is the range. We are getting a new car one way or another. Her new job is 72 - 81 miles round trip, depending on which of three routes she takes. We've been told the range is 84 miles, and 107 if we use eco boost all the way. Two of the three ways to work are back roads, so she'll be using the regenerative brakes more than the third way which is highway. Also we plan on getting the level 2 charger installed in our garage. My question is will she be able to make it to work round trip? Now there is a charging station on the way, and one literally a mile down the road on the same street she works at the dealership (not the one we're buying from). Both are Level 2 chargers. But of course charging would take time out of her day.

The plan is for her to leave with a full charge, get home, and plug in. Will she be able to make it? Will she make it in cold weather?

Or, should we wait for the 2018 with is rumored to have a range of anywhere from 180 - 200 miles?

Darryl
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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:48 am

BillCT wrote:Will she be able to make it? Will she make it in cold weather?

Or, should we wait for the 2018 with is rumored to have a range of anywhere from 180 - 200 miles?


Wait!

The range you are being told of this 2014 is optimistic. The battery is approximately 3 years old. There are many factors affecting deterioration like its location, temperature and usage. And many factors affecting your range directly, like cold weather and elevation. Regen only gives a portion of the amount used to get to the speed to start with.

Using the LeafSpy program will tell you the health of a specific vehicle, but even for a model in good shape that is quite a distance to drive assuming the range will drop with aging. I would advise on not purchasing this vehicle for an 80 miles round trip. I think you will find she needs to charge at work to be able to make the trip home.
2012 Nissan Leaf SL w 54900 miles SOH 60%. Lost four bars.

MalcolmReynolds
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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Sun Jul 09, 2017 3:23 pm

BillCT wrote:So I've been doing research. My wife, and I are looking into buying a Leaf. We have an offer for a 2014 SV with 25 K on it for $12,500 out the door. My question is the range. We are getting a new car one way or another. Her new job is 72 - 81 miles round trip, depending on which of three routes she takes. We've been told the range is 84 miles, and 107 if we use eco boost all the way. Two of the three ways to work are back roads, so she'll be using the regenerative brakes more than the third way which is highway. Also we plan on getting the level 2 charger installed in our garage. My question is will she be able to make it to work round trip? Now there is a charging station on the way, and one literally a mile down the road on the same street she works at the dealership (not the one we're buying from). Both are Level 2 chargers. But of course charging would take time out of her day.

The plan is for her to leave with a full charge, get home, and plug in. Will she be able to make it? Will she make it in cold weather?

Or, should we wait for the 2018 with is rumored to have a range of anywhere from 180 - 200 miles?


You should wait and get the 2018. The 2014 would be a stretch on a good summer day with very very conservative driving to be able to make it. Winter time, no way. The rumor mill has the 2018 Leaf with a 40kwh battery and a Japanese rated range of 200 miles which will translate to US speeds and distances of about 160 miles. That is the guesstimate we have at the moment. But certainly worth the wait and should be able to do that 80 mile round trip and give you a little buffer over time as the battery degrades to still make the trip for years to come.

Sadly there are too many people selling Leaf's that don't know what they are talking about, or they are lying. If you were talking a 50 mile round trip then I would say you could probably do that year around, but 80 miles I don't think that is realistic. Especially with a car that already has some use and normal degradation of the battery that original rated range is no longer in reach as the battery degrades.

The Leaf is a great car if your expectations are realistic and you understand both the pros and cons of the car and are willing to adapt to the driving style that is more fitting of an EV.
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LeftieBiker
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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:13 pm

Agreed. The dealership was lying about the range. Lease - don't buy - a 2017 Leaf, and if it suits you well and the battery holds up well, you can buy it when the lease ends. Otherwise you can move on and won't be stuck with a car with inadequate range.
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium Package and no QC, and 2009 Vectrix VX-1 with 18 Leaf cells.

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GetOffYourGas
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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:16 am

BillCT wrote:We've been told the range is 84 miles, and 107 if we use eco boost all the way.


These numbers match perfectly against the EPA rated range of the 2014 (84 miles) and the 2017 (107 miles). This seems too much to be a coincidence to me. The 107 miles is NOT the "eco boost" range, but the range of a different car (with a larger battery!).

I agree with others. Wait for the 2018. Nissan will likely have some good lease offers. Take them, see how you like the car. You can always buy it out at the end. I personally would not lease a 2017 for an 80 mile round-trip commute. But then I live where there are cold winters, which dramatically cut your range, even with the improved heat pump heater.
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