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Model 3 fire results:

https://www.iaai.com/Vehicle?itemID=28887056&RowNumber=47&loadRecent=True

Without any report (?) on the circumstances of this model 3's fire, or any statements re model 3 pack flammability by TSLA, you will need to form your own conclusions about what these photos may show about pack flammability.
 
edatoakrun said:
Model 3 fire results:

https://www.iaai.com/Vehicle?itemID=28887056&RowNumber=47&loadRecent=True

Without any report (?) on the circumstances of this model 3's fire, or any statements re model 3 pack flammability by TSLA, this post adds no useful information to the discussion.

Fixed it for you.
 
Zythryn said:
If I understand you correctly, I believe you can get what you are looking for by clicking on the HVAC button in the center. On the window that pops up you can turn “AC” on or off. As I recall it is in the upper right quadrant of the pop-up window.

Okay, I went out to the car to check, and yes there is an A/C button (that's grayed out when in AUTO, so not as obvious) that you can click to go to fan only. I will have to wait until another cool morning to see if it turns off heat as well.
 
lpickup said:
Okay, I went out to the car to check, and yes there is an A/C button (that's grayed out when in AUTO, so not as obvious) that you can click to go to fan only. I will have to wait until another cool morning to see if it turns off heat as well.
If it works like the S, then the button will turn off the A/C. However, as best as I can tell the HVAC system can still turn on the heat if the set-point is greater than the outside air.
 
lpickup said:
GRA said:
I've had to switch off the Auto Climate Control in my car the first time I adjust a setting (fan, direction or temp) after each time the car is started in my Forester for 15 years now, as I dislike ACC.

Ahhh, let's talk about ACC for a bit. Maybe I'm just strange, but I really loved the LEAF's ACC. I found it pretty much did exactly what I would do with regards to fan speed and direction of airflow. So in my LEAF, HVAC was always on AUTO (unless I had to turn on defrost which would NOT do the right thing and keep heat going to the feet as well). But in general I was very pleased with it (despite hearing all the stories to the contrary and always using manual controls before then). <snip details of Model 3 climate controls>
Yeah, some people love ACC and others like me hate it. In my car, whenever I get in and turn on the fan or something the ACC will instantly kick the fan speed up to max in an attempt to bring the entire car interior to whatever temp it was set at as quickly as possible, when usually all I want or need is a low but constant stream of outside air or or a little heat blowing on me (Note: living in my Bay Area microclimate I rarely need A/C).
 
You can use the ignore list if you don't want to read someone's posts.

I can take or leave. anyone's comments and I don't understand why this is so hard for some folks. If bad information is posted, refute it with facts. If someone just rubs you the wrong way, put them on your ignore list.

The only reason I can see for removing someone from the forum is for posting spam or personal attacks, etc. Just telling one side of a story is a not uncommon approach to posting, whether pro or con on the topic under discussion.
 
Motor Trend:
2018 TESLA MODEL 3 DUAL MOTOR PERFORMANCE REVIEW: FIRST TASTE
T Minus Forty-Five Minutes—and Counting
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesla/model-3/2018/2018-tesla-model-3-dual-motor-performance-review/

. . . Let me explain something you're not going to believe, but trust me on this. After having driven and tested perhaps 7,000 vehicles, sometimes I don't need to drive very far to get the idea.

Remember that freeway onramp we "missed" before Nelson took the wheel? It's a sweet 700-foot short-chute that whips into a right-hander I know very well, and I wasn't going to simply wait for the next freeway entry. "Hang on," I'd told everybody, whipping a U-turn and stamping the accelerator. Even with four aboard, the Model 3 DMP surged ahead so startlingly that it stopped conversation. Except maybe for an uttered "Oh my god." I braked pretty hard and arched up the on-ramp toward the freeway. It was a flourish more akin to swiping a navigation route on your phone than driving a car on the actual road. Carol might have been upside down by the time I backed off.

In maybe 120 wheel revolutions, a high-performance hierarchy has been rattled. The European marques perennially atop the sport sedan podium are about to have trapdoors release beneath them. Although nothing has fundamentally changed with the car's steering or suspension (besides an imperceptible but CG-lowering 5-10mm drop in ride height), the dual motor and all-wheel drive give the compact Tesla a tensed, hair-trigger potency for leaping ahead or around whatever's in the way. It's pure jungle cat. Our testing to come will explore whether its lighter Brembo brakes stop better and how much the now in-house vehicle control software lets Tesla directly tune the car's handling poise (without a supplier interpreting it). A track mode, which is still in development, dials up regenerative braking to lessen heat load on the friction brakes.

Speaking of software, Tesla's all-in attitude regarding its controversial big-screen driver interface has backpedaled a bit toward implementation of some physical controls. For instance, now a quick burst of windshield wiping requires just a depression of the left stalk (its screen-control actuator is now easier to engage, too); adjusting the adaptive cruise control can be done with dialing or laterally toggling the steering wheel's right scroll wheel. And on the screen itself, virtual buttons for more regularly accessed functions have been slid closer to the driver. . . .
 
Stumbled across a bunch of new Model 3 teardown videos by the talented Ingineer at https://www.youtube.com/user/Ingineerix/videos thanks to a YouTube notification.

I've only had a chance to watch 1.5 of the new ones.
 
cwerdna said:
Stumbled across a bunch of new Model 3 teardown videos by the talented Ingineer at https://www.youtube.com/user/Ingineerix/videos thanks to a YouTube notification.

I've only had a chance to watch 1.5 of the new ones.
Excellent find and very informative!
 
edatoakrun said:
Model 3 fire results:

https://www.iaai.com/Vehicle?itemID=28887056&RowNumber=47&loadRecent=True

Without any report (?) on the circumstances of this model 3's fire, or any statements re model 3 pack flammability by TSLA, you will need to form your own conclusions about what these photos may show about pack flammability.

Thanks for the real news.
 
edatoakrun said:
Model 3 fire results:

https://www.iaai.com/Vehicle?itemID=28887056&RowNumber=47&loadRecent=True

Without any report (?) on the circumstances of this model 3's fire, or any statements re model 3 pack flammability by TSLA, you will need to form your own conclusions about what these photos may show about pack flammability.

A burnt car in a tow yard, that's certainly unique. A Honda in my neighborhood overheated and caught fire a few weeks ago, the end result was worse than this and it melted the rear of a car parked on front of it as well. Shocking that your first post back is unsubstantiated Tesla FUD, I guess you just could not resist.


Here is some for you. Please inform your friends and neighbors this summer of the dangers of the Nissan LEAF, the EV that can burn unsuspecting families if it goes over a curb. Then the sky falls and we all die.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PUG-ldjD48
 
WetEV said:
edatoakrun said:
Model 3 fire results:

https://www.iaai.com/Vehicle?itemID=28887056&RowNumber=47&loadRecent=True

Without any report (?) on the circumstances of this model 3's fire, or any statements re model 3 pack flammability by TSLA, you will need to form your own conclusions about what these photos may show about pack flammability.

Thanks for the real news.

Please don't encourage his trying to mislead and incite those unaware of real facts.
 
Evoforce said:
WetEV said:
edatoakrun said:
Model 3 fire results:

https://www.iaai.com/Vehicle?itemID=28887056&RowNumber=47&loadRecent=True

Without any report (?) on the circumstances of this model 3's fire, or any statements re model 3 pack flammability by TSLA, you will need to form your own conclusions about what these photos may show about pack flammability.

Thanks for the real news.

Please don't encourage his trying to mislead and incite those unaware of real facts.

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1117904_tesla-and-its-fans-lash-out-at-critics-commentary
 
Again, he doesn't own the product to gain first hand knowledge nor does he care to be objective. Ask yourself, why is he so obviously against it without real world usage himself?

Something doesn't add up. I would think that most (if not all EV users) would want all EV manufacturers to be successful. In my mind, quicker to clean up the planet. Nothing is perfect and some EV's are better than others.

People with experience owning the actual products should carry much more weight than speculating ones. Especially those who have owned different brands for comparison.

Someone vehemently and continuously deriding Nissan or Leaf (for example) would be aggravating and ridiculous if they hadn't owned any product. In fact, we would be very suspicious of their motive. If you own(ed) product and have praise or a beef, that is understandable and you can legitimately air your opinion.

I own several EV's and so do family members. It should not be surprising that IMO Tesla is currently the best electric vehicle with charging infrastructure on the market . That may change in the future.

That being said, I want more choices for myself and others for massive adoption to occur. Also, I believe that will not happen until there are economically priced EV's that are identical/better in every way than ICE. We need to keep all of these car companies in the game to produce EV's and help drive charging infrastructure.

Global warming needs to stop escalating.
 
It’s always a more credibly position if you have direct experience with things you own but not always necessary. Cleasrly everyone has a right to any opinion fact based or not, however some methods of delivery and refusing to take commom sense feedback over extended periods of time can become overly disruptive. I do agree that it’s entertaining when someone is more of an expert on a car I own and they have all the facts wrong. People often educated me about my LEAF when they had never sat in one;)
 
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