Very interesting. Would you mind sharing a few details?tokenride said:Has anyone else had their 2011 battery pack replaced.
Mine was replaced on 9/19/13. I think it was one of the first but I just want to check with the forum.
ebill3 said:Very interesting. Would you mind sharing a few details?tokenride said:Has anyone else had their 2011 battery pack replaced.
Mine was replaced on 9/19/13. I think it was one of the first but I just want to check with the forum.
Why? Cost? Totally new battery, or some modules?
What did you have to do to get it replaced?
Wennfred said:The battery pack was ordered. I got a call from Leaf customer service every week to let me know there was no ETA yet. The battery pack took about 45 days to arrive. It was shipped from Japan because Tenesse is only set up to make the packs for the newer models. A+ service the whole way. Now I have anew pack fo the remaining two years of my lease.
Feng said:Wennfred said:The battery pack was ordered. I got a call from Leaf customer service every week to let me know there was no ETA yet. The battery pack took about 45 days to arrive. It was shipped from Japan because Tenesse is only set up to make the packs for the newer models. A+ service the whole way. Now I have anew pack fo the remaining two years of my lease.
I thought the packs were the same between the old and new models, they're not interchangeable? Does anyone know what the differences are? I hope Nissan won't leave the early adopters high and dry in a few years' time by saying the old packs are discontinued and leave the 1st gen owners without batteries.
The LEAF is a very rare car in Australia and there's very little in the way of other EVs and charging infrastructure here. On the plus side, I do get a kick out of being a bit different in traffic! Anyway, because of the rarity I hope I won't have twice the trouble of sourcing a replacement pack in ten years. I might even have to think of importing my own from a wrecked LEAF overseas!
My hypothesis is that while the modules should be interchangeable (so a single module replacement could be swapped around between any LEAF), enough of the pack case and internal electronics changed that the pack as a whole is not swappable. At the very least, the '13 LEAFs have a different color case than the '11-12 LEAFs.Stanton said:This is what we know:
1) The old/new battery pack MODULES are mechanically form/fit/function the same. Not only did Nissan go to a lot of trouble to make an EV platform (not a custom car), but it wouldn't make financial sense from a long-term volume perspective
2) Nissan has stated that most (e.g. warm weather) battery warranty replacements will get the "hot pack" when available in the US (sometime in 2014)
I think we can conclude that is Leaf got an "old" battery pack because that's all that was available; whether it came from Japan or US probably depended on parts availability (or lack there-of). Most of us hear about parts shortages here all the time--even though they are building cars (and battery packs) in the US.
Umm .. What are you saying, Dave? The charger was moved from the trunk to the hood, but that is not electronics that ever was or ever would be inside the individual modules. It has no effect on either the size or the electrical connections to them.DaveinOlyWA said:power wise they are the same but electronics were removed from 2011 packs and moved to under hood on the 13's. that is why there is a gap in the hump in the "trunk" on the 13's
planet4ever said:Umm .. What are you saying, Dave? The charger was moved from the trunk to the hood, but that is not electronics that ever was or ever would be inside the individual modules. It has no effect on either the size or the electrical connections to them.DaveinOlyWA said:power wise they are the same but electronics were removed from 2011 packs and moved to under hood on the 13's. that is why there is a gap in the hump in the "trunk" on the 13's
Ray
thankyouOB said:we are all chill on the battery replacement-sale price thing, and it is OK to be giving nissan some time.
The overall shape of the '13 pack is basically indistinguishable from the '11-12 pack. It's the onboard charger which was moved from behind the rear seats to under the hood which freed up trunk space.tokenride said:From what I was told by the Leaf specialist, the Tenessee plant is set up to only make the newer packs. From my understanding the '13 Leaf packs were redesigned to make more room int he trunk and make it more practical.
I spoke with the LEAF tech who works on my car and he mentioned that disassembling and reassembling the older battery packs is considerably more difficult and time consuming than the 2013 packs. He gave me his training manual to read while I waited for my car. It showed how to break apart and reassemble an older battery pack using straps to hold the stacks of modules together until they could be fitted in place. He told me that the new (2013) modules were designed to fit together better and be easier to break apart and reassemble.tokenride said:As far as the swap out goes, the Nissan dealer tech, said that went he went to "Leaf School" they mainly trained him on swaping out entire packs and not modules.
planet4ever said:Umm .. What are you saying, Dave? The charger was moved from the trunk to the hood, but that is not electronics that ever was or ever would be inside the individual modules. It has no effect on either the size or the electrical connections to them.DaveinOlyWA said:power wise they are the same but electronics were removed from 2011 packs and moved to under hood on the 13's. that is why there is a gap in the hump in the "trunk" on the 13's
Ray
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