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DaveinOlyWA said:KJD said:Is anyone else surprised at how well the PIP is actually doing. The dealer here said that most Toyota dealers do not even stock this car yet.
For me the price seems pretty high for only a 15 mile EV range.
not surprised at the sales of the PiP, but am surprised that "most" of us consider the main selling point to be the EV range.
it is essentially a car that seats 4 comfortably and easily gets 60+ mpg for all driving types. most who want to are getting 80+ mpg. the reason for this is the synergy drive in the Prius where the gas and electric combine to hit the road running. its well known, undoubtedly reversed engineered by everyone and highly sought after solution...that no one has seemed to figure out yet. add to that a plug and you have HSD on steroids. it would be a major stretch to have thought the main reason to buy the Prius was to EV around...unless its to EV around the block...ONLY
it also qualifies for some BS status in CA for carpooling or something
The PiP qualifies for CA carpool lane stickers just as the Leaf does and other EVs and PHEVs that are clean enough (http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/carpool/carpool.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false. The PiP also qualifies for a $1,500 CVRP (http://energycenter.org/index.php/incentive-programs/clean-vehicle-rebate-project/cvrp-eligible-vehicles" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false.adric22 said:That isn't entirely fair either being that the PiP isn't even available in many areas yet and CA is its biggest market even without the carpool stickers.
But I agree that the price is too high compared to a regular prius
Sure, the MSRP of the PiP seems high, but once you factor in the $2,500 Federal tax credit, $1,500 CVRP, carpool lane stickers, and incentives in some areas, it doesn't look that expensive compared to a comparably equipped regular Prius. Sure, it's not as low as the cheapest model of Prius available to consumers (Prius Two), but it's not so bad compared something w/more equipment.
From http://www.buyatoyota.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, if I put in the 95136 zip I see 0% financing WITH $1500 bonus cash (incentive). If I put in New York, NY, I see 0% financing WITH $3,500 bonus cash.
A regular Prius qualifies for no Federal incentives, no CA incentives nor CA carpool lane stickers.