mogur said:The strawberry faction is posting so prolifically there that I doubt anything else is going to be seen...
Maybe we need to kidnap their campaign organizer? I mean, I love strawberries more than ice cream, but really?
mogur said:The strawberry faction is posting so prolifically there that I doubt anything else is going to be seen...
evchels said:mogur said:The strawberry faction is posting so prolifically there that I doubt anything else is going to be seen...
Maybe we need to kidnap their campaign organizer? I mean, I love strawberries more than ice cream, but really?
evchels said:Oh, and now the stickers are evil and against GM's principles, and it was always the goal to get rid of them.
mwalsh said:Seriously! I was just going to post something like "Hey! Some people might like a try at getting the Governor's ear on other issues, you know!" But I got afraid of what kind of hate it might bring down on me! :?
GregH said:evchels said:Oh, and now the stickers are evil and against GM's principles, and it was always the goal to get rid of them.
*SNORT* And to think the original sticker law was to prevent ICEs from blocking GM's Magnechargers so GM's EV1 could charge..
evchels said:Well, if you ever find your car unplugged and strawberries smushed into your charge port...oh wait, you won't know that- you car will have been towed.
Yanquetino said:Uh-oh... if the governor signs AB745, here is a tow just waiting to happen:
That photo is from a Fast Company article on the issue. Nice to see the additional coverage, but it frankly irks me that they failed to give credit to Chelsea as the prime mover-and-shaker to expose the bill's flaws.
I agree, mwalsh...mwalsh said:While I agree with this, and also believe that PHEVs should be allowed at the trough. I would dearly like to hope that your average PHEV driver would be considerate of our need to charge vs. his desire to charge.
...but you know, evchels, you are absolutely right! As a newcomer to EVs it seems to me that the charging protocol placard is a great way for the majority of EV and PHEV drivers with good intentions. If you mark on it the time you need to charge, then you only get unplugged if it's past that time and someone else needs to charge. If I have plenty of charge in my EV battery, or if I'm driving a PHEV then the amount I need to charge is zero, though the amount I desire to charge is to 100% or 80%.evchels said:We need to be careful here. Most of the time, EV drivers do not need the charge either. It happens occasionally, but rarely will any one public charge determine whether you get to your next destination or not. Most of the time, it's topping off.
My assembleyman Nathan Fletcher has a limited web contact form in lieu of email, so I decided to mail a letter. Then I saw his district office was nearby so I drove the letter over at lunch and delivered it in person. His district director took time out of her day to talk with me, and went out to see my car and how you charge it. She asked lots of good questions about EVs, the Leaf, and private and public charging. No guarantees of course, but I'm satisfied that Mr. Fletcher is listening - and listening to his constituents, not to GM.mogur said:The strawberry faction is posting so prolifically there that I doubt anything else is going to be seen...
Email or snail mail is far more effective anyway.
mwalsh said:thew said:I think they removed it .. I cannot find this..
No, to their credit it's still there. You have to look under "Everyone (Most Recent)" and it's currently 6th post down, under their own post about Volt owners trying to maximize EV range.
smkettner said:Yanquetino said:Uh-oh... if the governor signs AB745, here is a tow just waiting to happen:
That photo is from a Fast Company article on the issue. Nice to see the additional coverage, but it frankly irks me that they failed to give credit to Chelsea as the prime mover-and-shaker to expose the bill's flaws.
What is the issue here? The spots do not appear to be EV only.
The solution is more charging stations placed toward the back of the parking lot.
evchels said:One solution may be more toward the back. However, most of the spots are in the front because a) ADA law requires them to be accessible to the disabled, and b) most site owners want their good deed to be as visible as possible, even to non-EV drivers. Some EV drivers love the preferential parking, and many are in your camp.
Chelsea,evchels said:Well, it's hard to tell what signage may be there, as closely cropped as the pic is. Those are also very new units, so signage may not be up yet.
One solution may be more toward the back. However, most of the spots are in the front because a) ADA law requires them to be accessible to the disabled, and b) most site owners want their good deed to be as visible as possible, even to non-EV drivers. Some EV drivers love the preferential parking, and many are in your camp.
Another problem with the back of the parking lot is that the electrical connections usually originate from the building. The farther away from the source, the more difficult and costly the installation. Also, the outer edges of parking lots are not as easy to keep an eye on, and thus are most prone to vandalism.evchels said:Well, it's hard to tell what signage may be there, as closely cropped as the pic is. Those are also very new units, so signage may not be up yet.smkettner said:What is the issue here? The spots do not appear to be EV only.
The solution is more charging stations placed toward the back of the parking lot.
One solution may be more toward the back. However, most of the spots are in the front because a) ADA law requires them to be accessible to the disabled, and b) most site owners want their good deed to be as visible as possible, even to non-EV drivers. Some EV drivers love the preferential parking, and many are in your camp.
Yeah, that might be true, but what is most interesting is that those Wattstations are positioned between parking spaces, thus allowing (I would even say encouraging) EVSE sharing. If GM has its way, it will cost this provider 1/3rd more, since it will be necessary to install yet another Wattstation for the middle space. And in this photo... the EV on the left would be ticketed/towed, since it is not --gasp!-- connected.richard said:I don't think the photo is a real installation. May even be a Photoshop. AFAIK, there are no public Wattstation installs yet.
smkettner said:evchels said:One solution may be more toward the back. However, most of the spots are in the front because a) ADA law requires them to be accessible to the disabled, and b) most site owners want their good deed to be as visible as possible, even to non-EV drivers. Some EV drivers love the preferential parking, and many are in your camp.
I would be in favor of requiring a percentage of existing ADA spots should have a charging station if charging stations are installed for the public.
One station to be shared amoung four ADA existing spaces should be sufficient initially. I think their are enough ADA spaces as is.
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