KeiJidosha
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Costco already votedevchels said:Hmm...shall we start a pool on how long it'll take for site owners to decide charging is more trouble than it's worth?
Costco already votedevchels said:Hmm...shall we start a pool on how long it'll take for site owners to decide charging is more trouble than it's worth?
evchels said:GregH said:The sad news is now WE have lost the authority (granted by the 2002 sticker law) to tow offending ices from the few spots that did have correct signage.
This bill still provides for towing, but the language is now goofy enough that it's only a matter of time til a gas car owner fights it in court, or someone sues a site for unlawful towing.
smkettner said:I have yet to read a story where someone was unplugged just for giggles.
GregH said:Let's just see how long it takes for the first AB475 compliant signage to show up anywhere. I bet it will be a while... I can't imagine many site owners getting pumped up about buying new signs to support the new law... Maybe some Volt drivers who get iced will push for it..? The sad news is now WE have lost the authority (granted by the 2002 sticker law) to tow offending ices from the few spots that did have correct signage.
yoyofella said:Not exactly a AB475 sign, but has same idea?
How utterly ironic. That is precisely what GM told her in this instance, despite all the sage advice she has given them in the years since that interview. It is a wonder they can even walk after shooting themselves in the foot so badly with this bill. :xWatching automakers is like watching my children. You have to let them figure it out on their own, and you so badly want to step in and say, "Let me just show you." And they go, "That's great. Piss off. I know what I'm doing."
thew said:Guys this is still on the goveners list of bills.. email him tell him to veto it.. it is a huge was of tax payer dollars at the benifet of GM,s hybrid the volt....that recharges itself while driving.....tell governor brown to veto.
Yeah... and I'm sure GM will pay for the extra cost, right? Pffff.cdub said:Well on the bright side... maybe this means they'll be adding more charging stations? ha
EVNation said:thew said:Guys this is still on the goveners list of bills.. email him tell him to veto it.. it is a huge was of tax payer dollars at the benifet of GM,s hybrid the volt....that recharges itself while driving.....tell governor brown to veto.
Signed and approved as written. Sadly, the governor didn't listen to all the current EV driver concerns. So we have that to look forward to, assuming any charge stations get built with the signage as required by this law.
Obviously, the poll is no more scientific than the ones hosted in this forum, but those percentages nonetheless show that GM did not consult with actual EV owners before pushing this law through. Here is a quick-and-dirty pie chart of the results:Should public charging stations be shared, allowing EV drivers to plug another EV when it is finished charging?
Results To Date
Yes: 154
No: 9
Don't Know: 15
Total: 178
garygid said:So, somebody unplugs your EV, it is towed, and you are left totally stranded! Totally Unacceptable !!!
It has already been passed and signed.LEAFfan said:Not necessarily. If this bill passes the way it is
Very easy with a networked charging station to pull up the charging record and show the Judge.garygid said:So, somebody unplugs your EV, it is towed, and you are left totally stranded! Totally Unacceptable !!!
Unless, of course, you're out of town, on a plane, car pooling, in an important meeting, have your cell phone turned off in a movie, a theater, a doctor's office, a classroom, or... forgot it at home, etc. Ouch.LEAFfan said:Not necessarily. If this bill passes the way it is, you'll just have to have your email/text messages set so it will alert you when it's unplugged. Then, you will have to go and either plug it back in (if needed) or move it.garygid said:So, somebody unplugs your EV, it is towed, and you are left totally stranded! Totally Unacceptable !!!
Perhaps that is the reason there is a place to put a lock on to keep the J1772 from being removed by someone else?garygid said:So, somebody unplugs your EV, it is towed, and you are left totally stranded! Totally Unacceptable !!!
I guess we'll soon see, as soon as the law takes affect on January 1, 2012. Nonetheless, IMHO, we should never pass a law without fully intending to enforce it. Otherwise... what's the point?smkettner said:Very easy with a networked charging station to pull up the charging record and show the Judge.garygid said:So, somebody unplugs your EV, it is towed, and you are left totally stranded! Totally Unacceptable !!!
I wonder who will pay the towing charge then? But honestly I doubt this will be more than a very rare issue.
And this opens a whole new can of worms. I can well imagine that many EVSE providers and their parking attendants will not be happy about drivers using unremovable padlocks on their equipment.Stoaty said:Perhaps that is the reason there is a place to put a lock on to keep the J1772 from being removed by someone else?garygid said:So, somebody unplugs your EV, it is towed, and you are left totally stranded! Totally Unacceptable !!!
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