Yanquetino said:
Those parameters are not "opinion": they are Nissan's own projected estimates, and likely what the automaker would cite to defend their claim that "The cars and the battery packs are behaving as we expected."
And the endless argument continues :roll:
There is an easy solution to all this, Nissan could publish the
AESC cycle life spec sheets recorded at different ambient temperatures. They have undoubtedly tested this extensively over the years. But they won't say anything. The same thing applies to usable battery pack capacity, its price, and other fundamental metrics.
When owners complain about declining range, it's either their own fault, a mysterious software bug or a gauge error. Or a combination of all three.
Meanwhile, the manufacturer drags its feet the best it can, and our official liaison to Nissan
does not see a problem. He even goes as far as
recommending wet nurses to the most vocal and impatient of those that are dissatisfied. Given this situation, what will a longtime evangelist and EV activist of your stature do? Write an article attacking owners, and defending the manufacturer hoping that "it might help repair at least modicum of the damage".
We don't have to agree, obviously, and everyone is entitled to their opinion. It would be good to realize though, that situations like this one should be avoided in the future. That might take a change of attitude by everyone involved.
TonyWilliams said:
Start battery stored energy: 265 Gids
83.2 miles driven (with 21 Gids / 7.47% remaining)
88.7 miles calculated range to turtle
GOM: "---" (normal for "Very Low Battery")
Gids: 11 / 3.9% remaining
Economy: 4.3 miles/kWh
Many thanks for doing this due diligence, especially to the driver in Phoenix. While this test is fresh in your memory, please recall that
Jay did a similar run in April, two months after taking possession of his Leaf. He drove on level freeway in 80 F weather with no wind, and 65 mph indicated on the dash. His results are a mirror image of what was measured last weekend in Phoenix.
Here are Jay's key metrics:
mkjayakumar said:
GIDs on Jun 03 came out to 262
LBW at 76 miles with 8 miles left in the GoM
I would have seen VLB at 83 miles
Projected total range 89.9 miles (76 + 3.3 x 4.2)
4.2 miles/KWH
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