We live in the Portland, Oregon vicinity and these Greenies love EV's and frown upon those who drive ICE vehicles. We find it shocking how EV's seem to be falling out of popularity here. Lots of Dealers have an abundance of new and used EV's. We have owned 2 LEAF's, a 2103 and a 2020. The 2013 was enjoyable because few had an EV and all charging was free and available. When we got the 2020, Chargers were always busy (it seemed) or they were broken. Instead of "Free Charging", costs were as high as $.56 a KW. We enjoyed the EV's but were always having charging and range issues. The biggest deturrent was insurance costs. Our 2020 was $115 a month to insure. We sold the LEAF and now I drive a huge Car. A 1998 Oldsmobile Aurora 4.0 V8. Paid $1900 for the Car, $350 in repairs, and $30 a month to insure. I only drive it maybe 400 miles a month. We also have a 2002 SAAB with 200K miles on it. It's inexpensive to insure also and gets 17 MPG around town and 27 - 29 on the highway. My Neighbor has a new MachE performance model he lets his 16 year old Daughter drive to and from School. He pays $800 a month car payment and $250 a month insurance. And they only drive it about 5,000 miles a year. Those are expensive miles. We think most EV Owners are wealthy. The Neighbor and his Wife are Doctors. Money is no object to them. We would someday like to try another EV but right now, the battery technology isn't good enough. If it is perfected and the actual range is 600 miles, that would replace our ICE vehicles. There have been some good deals here on used and new EV's.