Mark Perry confirmed 120v charging rate on NPR yesterday - 1.4kwH. So that's ~17.25 hours to fully charged from empty.
mwalsh said:Mark Perry confirmed 120v charging rate on NPR yesterday - 1.4kwH. So that's ~17.25 hours to fully charged from empty.
mwalsh said:Mark Perry confirmed 120v charging rate on NPR yesterday - 1.4kwH. So that's ~17.25 hours to fully charged from empty.
mitch672 said:mwalsh said:Mark Perry confirmed 120v charging rate on NPR yesterday - 1.4kwH. So that's ~17.25 hours to fully charged from empty.
of course, that's all the power you can draw from a 15A circuit
15A * 120V = 1800 Watts
1800 watts * %80 (to not overheat the circuit breaker for continuous load) = 1440 watts
or 1.44KW
They could have a switchable 120V EVSE, that allowed for the use of 20A circuits, which would get %25 more power. Probably determined it wasn't worth it, using the same convulted logic they used to determine that a 3.3KW onboard charger would be "acceptable" for even L2 charging.
mwalsh said:Mark Perry confirmed 120v charging rate on NPR yesterday - 1.4kwH. So that's ~17.25 hours to fully charged from empty.
mwalsh said:Interesting moral quandary....there was a voicemail from AV on my cell phone when I turned it on this morning. Apparent my quote is ready to go, but there is some kind of problem with the charge card number I gave them for the assessment fee, so they haven't been able to charge me the $100. Nissan had no problem using the same card for the reservation fee, and I've had no problems with it otherwise, so I'm not sure what's going on there. But I digress...
I've got a feeling (if the quotes the rest of you have gotten) that the quote is going to be a right royal "bending over". But on the other hand, I have had the service they were obliged to provide. :?
EVDRIVER said:Part of the service was a quote within a time frame, were they within reason of the promised delivery or a month later like others, if you "pay" for a quote it should be delivered within a reasonable time period as promised.
mwalsh said:EVDRIVER said:Part of the service was a quote within a time frame, were they within reason of the promised delivery or a month later like others, if you "pay" for a quote it should be delivered within a reasonable time period as promised.
A month late, naturally! :lol:
EVDRIVER said:"Another thing you can count on AV for is success. If these people make mistakes, they make them invisibly – and very seldom.
:lol: What does that say about the "intelligence" of the gov't vis-a-vis the intelligence of "the people" ?mwalsh said:EVDRIVER said:"Another thing you can count on AV for is success. If these people make mistakes, they make them invisibly – and very seldom.
Success, or the appearance of success? If they're hoping to make mistakes with consumers under the same cloak of invisibility they employ with the Government, I've got a feeling they've got another thing coming!
mwalsh said:Interesting moral quandary....there was a voicemail from AV on my cell phone when I turned it on this morning. Apparent my quote is ready to go, but there is some kind of problem with the charge card number I gave them for the assessment fee, so they haven't been able to charge me the $100. Nissan had no problem using the same card for the reservation fee, and I've had no problems with it otherwise, so I'm not sure what's going on there. But I digress...
I've got a feeling (if the quotes the rest of you have gotten) that the quote is going to be a right royal "bending over". But on the other hand, I have had the service they were obliged to provide. :?
hill said:Good News!
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2010/07/26/489077.html
ClipperCreek began shipping 2 weeks ago. So . . . I'm still dorkin' around w/ aerovirnonment ... waiting for them to see if they'll bless us with a hardwire for $2,200 even though a plug in version would save hundreds on install costs alone.
mwalsh said:hill said:Good News!
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2010/07/26/489077.html
ClipperCreek began shipping 2 weeks ago. So . . . I'm still dorkin' around w/ aerovirnonment ... waiting for them to see if they'll bless us with a hardwire for $2,200 even though a plug in version would save hundreds on install costs alone.
But aren't the ClipperCreek units like $2,000 just for the unit? :?:
hill said:I'm waiting on an email to find out what they'll charge ... stand alone, versus group buy. We'll see. I have no source that says ClipperCreek is $2K. Do you?
......the company's American-made CS-40 connects to a 208V - 240V feed and puts out a continuous 32 amps and should retail for about $3,000
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