Nissan finally gets it with new 240V portable EVSE
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junoman said:
If you are comfortable using a voltmeter measure the installed 14-50R to make sure it was wired properly.
I worked for a company that sold equipment connected to 14-50R Receptacles. 1 out of 10 times when we went to install the equipment we would find newly wired 14-50Rs miss-wired professionally.
Here’s the diagram.
ddh1313 said:
Definitely shorter than 25 feet. It’s probably 18-20 ft max. I replaced a 25 ft Clipper Creek with a Nissan 120/240v OEM ESEV and the cord was is much shorter on the Nissan EVSE. It wouldn’t reach my Leaf where it was parked but the Clipper Creek easily reached.
Bouldergramp
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The one that came with my 2018 Leaf is 21 ft long...from the AC plug to the end of the connector.
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junoman said:
I second getting a multimeter to check the voltage. Also, the Nissan EVSE is very picky about voltage and won't work if it's not around 240V.
Tsiah
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My guess is because it's an RV park outlet. You theoretically could charge the car just about anywhere in the country.mxp said:
It's nearly impossible to find a 40 amp plug and a 30 amp plug would be out of compliance for any charge period for more than 3 hours (by code you have to de-rate the plug 20% if it's in continuous use for more than 3 hours). That leaves the 14-50 plug as the obvious choice. The big plus is that they are as common as dirt and used in RV parks and campsites all the time. Most homes won't have one unless there's an electric range installed. It's becoming more common in new construction to include one in the garage for future EV use. Anything over 50 amps is normally hardwired to a breaker.Tsiah said:
I'm guessing mxp might just be wondering why as EVs don't need a neutral, why the Leaf EVSE didn't just come with a 6-50 plugjohnlocke said:
and to that I'd agree it's probably because the 14-50 standard is much more common than the 6-50 standard. Tesla also standardized on the 14-50 very early on so it's kind of a standard for higher-powered EVSEs.I really like the L14-30 plug or even L6-30 standard as it's not nearly as bulky as the range plug 14-50 and it's a locking plug but being a 30a standard it's not really robust enough to supply the 27.5a some Leafs can pull continuously, for that you need a 40 or 50a plug and since a 40a plug is nonstandard, 50a was the standard used.
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I think for the US market Nissan could have gone with a 24 amp EVSE with 14-30 plug and let the customer use an adapter if needed.
Of course it should have also been compatible with 208v.
Of course it should have also been compatible with 208v.
And actually a 14-30 plug with the neutral prong removed or not installed, will easily plug into a 14-50 outlet. Juicebox EVSEs used to come standard with a 14-50 plug without the neutral, allowing you to plug into either outlet. I believe the newest Juiceboxes come with the 50a neutral prong installed, probably a CIA thing so someone doesn't plug their 40a Juicebox into a 30a outlet. Juicebox is a lot more "UL" than they were at one time.smkettner said:
smkettner
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OEM is not going to supply modified connectors. Adapter would be the limit.
Via TMC Cosmacelf: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/posts/2512109/
It is a NEMA 14-50 even tho the shadow makes it look like a 14-30.
Hello friends, I have sent the photo of the wall plate inside my parking lot and I have also bought the converter from Amazon, but when I connect it to the Nissan leaf adapter, then After a few seconds, the red light of the adapter will light up and the charging will stop Do you know where the problem is? Please help me, thanks
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I suggest that you first check for a good ground. I see that there is armored conduit, and that should provide the ground, but sometimes it doesn't. The next thing to check would be to verify that your outlet is wired correctly, both at the outlet box and at the service panel.
Thank you for your quick response, I checked everything and it's true that after 5 seconds the lights of the adapter will turn on like the picture below.
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The only other thing I can suggest is to verify that the problem isn't with the charging cable, by plugging it into a different outlet.
goldbrick
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Did you see this? https://mynissanleaf.com/threads/evse-fault-light-solid.27747/
Otherwise, the owner's manual doesn't show that light configuration as anything except what should be on for the first 0.5 seconds after it is plugged in. It does seem like maybe the unit is defective. IIRC, there is some sort of warranty for the EVSE. You might contact your local Nissan dealer for help or to see if they can supply a replacement.
Otherwise, the owner's manual doesn't show that light configuration as anything except what should be on for the first 0.5 seconds after it is plugged in. It does seem like maybe the unit is defective. IIRC, there is some sort of warranty for the EVSE. You might contact your local Nissan dealer for help or to see if they can supply a replacement.
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This is like a self test to make sure there is no ground fault problem. Mine do exactly the same thing. I wouldn't be worried about that.
henrydehoja
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I would check to see if your Nissan OEM portable charger unit (EVSE) works by plugging it into at a NEMA 14-50 receptacle and try charging from it. If it works fine, then the problem may be with that Westinghouse adapter you purchased.
Amazon indicates that this Westinghouse adapter is often returned (see bottom-right corner of the pic below), so you may want to return it and buy a different adapter. I do not have any experience using 6-50P to 14-50R adapters, so I can't recommend one to buy.
