defiancecp
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Bit of a surprising day yesterday... I had seen some serious drops as it got colder, but I was still a little shocked with yesterday's performance...
I only had it chanrged to 80% because I didn't think there was going to be any chance of an issue. The temp was 33 when I got up, and it never got higher than 40 at any point (it was 36 when I went to lunch, 38 on the way home, according to the dash) - and wet; it rained constantly yesterday (still is for that matter). I started the morning by turning on the preheat with it on the charger. Ended up preheating for about 15 minutes... OOPS. That was a huge mistake... When I got to the car, I couldn't even see into it for the fog. Yet again I'm reminded how annoying it is that there's no way to pre-heat/defog. So I got in the car, turned on the defogger and waited.... and realized why Nissan chose not to do that (or at least, my guess of why). Even with it on the charger, it was dropping power. At 33*, with temp set to 65*, defogger on and fan high, it was pulling over 4.5kw. It was so severely fogged that it took another 10 minutes of defogger to clear up, and by then I was down to 9 bars already!! I can only assume it must've been slowly draining even when it was running just heater...
So I started off short already, but like I said, with a 33 mile commute I still expected PLENTY of room, right? So being a little late to work (from having to spend an extra 10 minutes in the carport waiting for defog), I took the interstate on the way in. 57mph, 8 miles of interstate, the rest is still normal roads with a max speed limit of 45. Heater set to 65, fan low, defog only on when absolutely necessary.
I don't remember exactly what the display showed when I got to work, but it was lower than I expected, enough lower that I was a bit worried- so when I went to lunch (no interstate, 40mph max), I took it very easy and used no climate control other than defog when absolutely needed (with temp all the way down).
On the way home, I took city roads instead of the interstate - 40mph limit for that portion of the trip, so other than the 8 miles of morning interstate where I drove 57, at no point was I on a road with >45mph limit (and I didn't break the limits).
So I never really had to worry about making it home - I got low battery warning about 5 miles from home (showing 9 miles left), and just before I pulled in the driveway the last bar disappeared and the guessometer changed from 4 to --. Didn't turtle yet.
I know there's a lot of worst case scenarios here, but I'm still just a bit shocked that it came out this bad... 8 miles of 57mph, the rest under 45, climate control used for 30 minutes at 70*, the rest of the day EXCLUSIVELY for defogging? 33 miles with 4 miles left on 80% (~37 total) would imply a full-charge range of well under 50 miles...
I mean, I expect the range to drop every time it gets colder..... But it seems like every time it does, that expectation is shattered by how much.
I've changed all my timers to 100% so I don't have to worry about making it home anymore, and maybe I'll even get to use the heater. At least there are extremely few days colder than this here. Still, we might see a handfull of days a year in the 20s... I just worry that, as sharp as these drops have been each time the temp dropped, even 100% isn't going to get me 40 miles on those days. Guess I can skip meeting my wife for lunch and/or make other arrangements to pick up my son on extremely cold days.
Incidentally, the preheat thing is starting to seem like a lose-lose thing. I can skip it and even if I decide not to turn on climate control, still suck a ton of juice every time I turn on the defog, or I can turn it on and have to suck a ton of juice to get it defogged once I'm ready to go. Anybody else handled prewarming in humid, cold weather? How did you deal with it?
I only had it chanrged to 80% because I didn't think there was going to be any chance of an issue. The temp was 33 when I got up, and it never got higher than 40 at any point (it was 36 when I went to lunch, 38 on the way home, according to the dash) - and wet; it rained constantly yesterday (still is for that matter). I started the morning by turning on the preheat with it on the charger. Ended up preheating for about 15 minutes... OOPS. That was a huge mistake... When I got to the car, I couldn't even see into it for the fog. Yet again I'm reminded how annoying it is that there's no way to pre-heat/defog. So I got in the car, turned on the defogger and waited.... and realized why Nissan chose not to do that (or at least, my guess of why). Even with it on the charger, it was dropping power. At 33*, with temp set to 65*, defogger on and fan high, it was pulling over 4.5kw. It was so severely fogged that it took another 10 minutes of defogger to clear up, and by then I was down to 9 bars already!! I can only assume it must've been slowly draining even when it was running just heater...
So I started off short already, but like I said, with a 33 mile commute I still expected PLENTY of room, right? So being a little late to work (from having to spend an extra 10 minutes in the carport waiting for defog), I took the interstate on the way in. 57mph, 8 miles of interstate, the rest is still normal roads with a max speed limit of 45. Heater set to 65, fan low, defog only on when absolutely necessary.
I don't remember exactly what the display showed when I got to work, but it was lower than I expected, enough lower that I was a bit worried- so when I went to lunch (no interstate, 40mph max), I took it very easy and used no climate control other than defog when absolutely needed (with temp all the way down).
On the way home, I took city roads instead of the interstate - 40mph limit for that portion of the trip, so other than the 8 miles of morning interstate where I drove 57, at no point was I on a road with >45mph limit (and I didn't break the limits).
So I never really had to worry about making it home - I got low battery warning about 5 miles from home (showing 9 miles left), and just before I pulled in the driveway the last bar disappeared and the guessometer changed from 4 to --. Didn't turtle yet.
I know there's a lot of worst case scenarios here, but I'm still just a bit shocked that it came out this bad... 8 miles of 57mph, the rest under 45, climate control used for 30 minutes at 70*, the rest of the day EXCLUSIVELY for defogging? 33 miles with 4 miles left on 80% (~37 total) would imply a full-charge range of well under 50 miles...
I mean, I expect the range to drop every time it gets colder..... But it seems like every time it does, that expectation is shattered by how much.
I've changed all my timers to 100% so I don't have to worry about making it home anymore, and maybe I'll even get to use the heater. At least there are extremely few days colder than this here. Still, we might see a handfull of days a year in the 20s... I just worry that, as sharp as these drops have been each time the temp dropped, even 100% isn't going to get me 40 miles on those days. Guess I can skip meeting my wife for lunch and/or make other arrangements to pick up my son on extremely cold days.
Incidentally, the preheat thing is starting to seem like a lose-lose thing. I can skip it and even if I decide not to turn on climate control, still suck a ton of juice every time I turn on the defog, or I can turn it on and have to suck a ton of juice to get it defogged once I'm ready to go. Anybody else handled prewarming in humid, cold weather? How did you deal with it?