Gonewild
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I am in if I am not working. I have Saturdays off now if I am not covering for someone on vacation.
turbo2ltr said:Anyone interested in a meet? We haven't had one in a while and there are a lot of new people...
cyellen said:Saturdays are tough for me, but I'll try...would be great to meet some of you in person.
leafkabob said:It looks like the bill as proposed now has a $.01 per mile tax. Here is a link to the current version of the bill: http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/50leg/2r/bills/hb2257p.pdf
When I e-mailed the sponsor, Steve Farley, he wrote back and said:
"Thanks for writing. Our state gas tax is restricted to only be used for roads. That gas tax, a flat 18 cents that has not been increased since 1987, and as people use less gas, the fund is shrinking as construction costs go up. While all-electric cars are not a large number yet, they will be. Their increase will lay bare the unsustainability of our roadway finance system that is almost exclusively dependent on gas sales. If we place a fee in place now, the problem will be ameliorated, and eventually we can allow nybrids and other cars to transition from gas tax to a tax per mile traveled, so that our road maintenance and construction funds remain suistainable. This will take time, and we hope to spur the federal government to act as well. In the meantime, most EV owners who have contacted me agree that paying an average of $120 a year to maintain the roads they use is not unreasonable."
Hurray! Government inefficiency actually working for us! (although I doubt this was an accident - probably was deliberately pigeon-holed to do the right thing without rousing the rabble).leafkabob said:leafkabob said:It looks like the bill as proposed now has a $.01 per mile tax. Here is a link to the current version of the bill: http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/50leg/2r/bills/hb2257p.pdf
When I e-mailed the sponsor, Steve Farley, he wrote back and said:
"Thanks for writing. Our state gas tax is restricted to only be used for roads. That gas tax, a flat 18 cents that has not been increased since 1987, and as people use less gas, the fund is shrinking as construction costs go up. While all-electric cars are not a large number yet, they will be. Their increase will lay bare the unsustainability of our roadway finance system that is almost exclusively dependent on gas sales. If we place a fee in place now, the problem will be ameliorated, and eventually we can allow nybrids and other cars to transition from gas tax to a tax per mile traveled, so that our road maintenance and construction funds remain suistainable. This will take time, and we hope to spur the federal government to act as well. In the meantime, most EV owners who have contacted me agree that paying an average of $120 a year to maintain the roads they use is not unreasonable."
FWIW I am told that the "$.01 per mile tax on EV's" bill is dead. It was assigned to two different committees, and neither one heard the bill in committee before the deadline for hearing bills in committee expired a couple of weeks ago.
TickTock said:Hurray! Government inefficiency actually working for us! (although I doubt this was an accident - probably was deliberately pigeon-holed to do the right thing without rousing the rabble).leafkabob said:leafkabob said:It looks like the bill as proposed now has a $.01 per mile tax. Here is a link to the current version of the bill: http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/50leg/2r/bills/hb2257p.pdf
When I e-mailed the sponsor, Steve Farley, he wrote back and said:
"Thanks for writing. Our state gas tax is restricted to only be used for roads. That gas tax, a flat 18 cents that has not been increased since 1987, and as people use less gas, the fund is shrinking as construction costs go up. While all-electric cars are not a large number yet, they will be. Their increase will lay bare the unsustainability of our roadway finance system that is almost exclusively dependent on gas sales. If we place a fee in place now, the problem will be ameliorated, and eventually we can allow nybrids and other cars to transition from gas tax to a tax per mile traveled, so that our road maintenance and construction funds remain suistainable. This will take time, and we hope to spur the federal government to act as well. In the meantime, most EV owners who have contacted me agree that paying an average of $120 a year to maintain the roads they use is not unreasonable."
FWIW I am told that the "$.01 per mile tax on EV's" bill is dead. It was assigned to two different committees, and neither one heard the bill in committee before the deadline for hearing bills in committee expired a couple of weeks ago.
turbo2ltr said:Anyone have an update on the DCFC at Ecotality? Is it online? I'm headed to tempe and wouldn't mind trying it out.
The blink site says 5 chargers "off network".
phxsmiley said:Just drove by Ikea at lunch and see that they have 4 new Blink stations, with EV Only parking. One of them looks like it could be used with a handicapped parking spot. They are operational.
This is a good location, right at I-10 and Warner Rd. The only restaurant within short walking distance is Ikea's own food court, but there's a lot of other shops there.
Yeah I don't know how you do it. I don't have that kind of patience. I'm from NY! lol.Gonewild said:SLow down turbo, I am getting over 80 miles a day on my battery.
I went to Ikea to check out the charge stations there. I like the fact that they have them all on the west side of the parking lot near the freeway, instead of at a prime parking location near the entrance where people can get jealous and maybe key your car, or just ignore the EV parking sign and ICE those lots anyway.phxsmiley said:Just drove by Ikea at lunch and see that they have 4 new Blink stations, with EV Only parking. One of them looks like it could be used with a handicapped parking spot. They are operational, but don't appear on the Blink map yet. I plugged into one of them.
This is a good location, right at I-10 and Warner Rd. The only restaurant within short walking distance is Ikea's own food court, but there's a lot of other shops there.
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