https://www.chevybolt.org/threads/tesla ... ost-573871 posted by a Bolt driver has a translation of a message that South Korean Tesla drivers received along with background info about their Supercharger vs. other DC FC standard situation there.SageBrush wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:37 amThe other foot is dropping
I just read on Electrek that Tesla has announced a CCS1 adapter in S. Korea, to be available early 2021
I cannot think of any reason why the adapter will not be made available to N. America
I *suspect* that this is the first step in a Tesla transition to CCS1, but I don't really care. I'm tickled pink to expect to have access to both the Supercharger and generic DCFC networks in N. America.
CCS1 is bulky and ugly, but oh so practical
For those wondering -- this opens up the generic CCS1 charger networks to Tesla cars; it does not open up the Tesla Supercharger network to non Tesla CCS1 cars.
wesley wrote:Tesla's charging network is abysmal compared to the public DCFC infrastructure in Korea. As noted in the Electrek article, there are 33 SC and 150 DC stations in Korea. In contrast, there are a total of more than 23,200 public charging units as of August 2020, of which about 16,000 were L2 (7kW AC) and 7,100 were CCS1 DCFC. Note that this is not the number of stations, but since most stations have just one or two units you can sort of cut the number by half there.
One of the biggest complaints of the Korean Tesla owners was that there aren't enough SC/DC around, which is basically the reverse of the situation in the United States. The existing CHAdeMO adapter was not enough because the expansion of the CHAdeMO charging network pretty much stopped around 2018 after the Korean government chose CCS1 as the national standard the year prior, and the ones already in place can only charge up to about 40 kW.
The new public chargers installed by the government since 2019, numbering around two thousand last time I checked, were mostly CCS1-exclusive with 100 to 200 kW charging support. The newly announced official adapter looks like it may be able to take advantage of the faster speed, and if so, it would be an effective remedy for the said complaint.
LOL! Yes. I saw the picture of the plug and thus the rumors.
jlv wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:00 amI hope not: the CCS-1 connector is a big bulky thing and the North American Tesla connector (used for SuperCharging as well as Level 2) is simple and easy to use.
I also think if they were going to change the handle it would have happened similar to Europe, where they enacted the change before releasing the Model 3.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a3503 ... rchargers/ asserts that it's actually much worse than that. Hopefully you're able to read https://www.lexology.com/library/detail ... %20handles that they point to.DaveinOlyWA wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:32 amObviously we can only speculate but that isn't all that tough consideringcwerdna wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:05 amThere more to it than that, at least with what Elon's stated publicly. See https://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic. ... 10#p457610. Who knows if he has some other conditions beyond what he stated publicly?johnlocke wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:51 pmTesla Superchargers are private only because Tesla asked for the other manufacturers to help pay for the infrastructure costs if they wanted to use the supercharger system and all the other manufacturers declined. All the other manufacturers decided to leave charging infrastructure to third parties with predictable results.
All billing, recognition, etc. is done "in" the station. IOW; no external ID or billing system. These means manufacturers "must" give up the name and info of their customers or require the customers to register directly with Tesla. The manufacturers would create a device that reports user info to the SC station.
This requires other manufacturers to give up a lot of data on their customers. IOW; the offer sounded good but it was essentially a no go from Day one.