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Re: Electrify America Network

Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:59 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
GRA wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote: Aberdeen?? Not quite. As far as the other trips you mentioned? They were doable before although some only became available last Summer with Evita installs.
Aberdeen is easy, 118 miles to North Bend via SR 8/U.S. 101/I-5/SR 18. Even if you go through Seattle it's only 139 miles. As for Port Angeles, I was deliberately being conservative, because it's possible to make it all the way from Cape Flattery to North Bend if you take the ferry (Kingston - Edmunds) across Puget Sound (191 miles).

As for when something's doable, I'm referring to using only EA QCs. In many instances there are other QCs that will allow you to close a leg, but that means the hassle of dealing with multiple providers, usually with lower power QCs.
Using your EA only comments;

Only someone who doesn't live here would say Aberdeen is easy. Realize other than a Level 2 at a chevy dealership, there is no charging facilities there (unless you drive a Tesla) so all those one way distances need to be doubled for a day trip.

But that doesn't stop there. EA has no current plans to put anything in the lower Olympic Peninsula.
I assume that both start and finish points will have L2, either because someone lives there or there are public chargers. If that's not the case then my comments don't apply. Taking that as understood, would you agree that anyone who lives in Aberdeen and has home charging can drive from there to SLC using only EA QCs enroute?
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Re: Electrify America Network

Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:33 am

GRA wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
GRA wrote: Aberdeen is easy, 118 miles to North Bend via SR 8/U.S. 101/I-5/SR 18. Even if you go through Seattle it's only 139 miles. As for Port Angeles, I was deliberately being conservative, because it's possible to make it all the way from Cape Flattery to North Bend if you take the ferry (Kingston - Edmunds) across Puget Sound (191 miles).

As for when something's doable, I'm referring to using only EA QCs. In many instances there are other QCs that will allow you to close a leg, but that means the hassle of dealing with multiple providers, usually with lower power QCs.
Using your EA only comments;

Only someone who doesn't live here would say Aberdeen is easy. Realize other than a Level 2 at a chevy dealership, there is no charging facilities there (unless you drive a Tesla) so all those one way distances need to be doubled for a day trip.

But that doesn't stop there. EA has no current plans to put anything in the lower Olympic Peninsula.
I assume that both start and finish points will have L2, either because someone lives there or there are public chargers. If that's not the case then my comments don't apply. Taking that as understood, would you agree that anyone who lives in Aberdeen and has home charging can drive from there to SLC using only EA QCs enroute?

Ok, so it works one way. There would be a small group coming from Aberdeen and considering its proximity to the coast, the much larger group would going to Aberdeen.

Now Lacey will solve that issue being close enough that most EVs (less than a few years old) will be able to make that round trip but at this point, not a single stone has been turned at that location.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:01 pm

    DaveinOlyWA wrote:
    GRA wrote: I assume that both start and finish points will have L2, either because someone lives there or there are public chargers. If that's not the case then my comments don't apply. Taking that as understood, would you agree that anyone who lives in Aberdeen and has home charging can drive from there to SLC using only EA QCs enroute?
    Ok, so it works one way. There would be a small group coming from Aberdeen and considering its proximity to the coast, the much larger group would going to Aberdeen. <snip>
    Both ways for people who live there (or can use public L2s), which was my intent. Otherwise I'd have said "people can drive from North Bend, WA to Chubbuck, Idaho using only EA QCs", or else "people can drive from anywhere within a round-trip radius of one of those points etc. to the other ditto, if they don't have L2 charging at one or both of the end points," which is getting pretty clumsy.
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    Re: Electrify America Network

    Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:15 pm

    Three more have opened, making 7 for the month and 118 total: Salt Lake City, UT (S. Jct. I-15/80); Lansing, MI (N. Jct, I-69/96); Knoxville, TN (I-40, SW of city). There are now EA QCs in 33 states.
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    Re: Electrify America Network

    Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:59 pm

    #8 for the month and #119 total: Raleigh, NC is open (U.S. 70 btwn I-40/440/540).
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    Re: Electrify America Network

    Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:31 pm

    Four more sites have opened, making 12 for the month and 123 total: Hermiston, OR (I-84); Round Rock, TX (I-35 N. of Austin); Girard, OH (I-80 NNW of Youngstown); Abingdon, MD (I-95 between Baltimore and Wilmington).

    Hermiston knocks about 185 miles off the trip from Seattle to SLC, and knocks almost 420 miles off the the trip from Portland to SLC albeit the first leg to Hermiston still requires extreme care. Round Rock allows driving between DFW and Austin/San Antonio, the latter with great care. With Girard, you can travel from NYC to Cleveland or with extreme care Toledo, or(via Mansfield) to Columbus easily and Dayton with some care. To get to Indianapolis still requires either Columbus or Huber Heights, both "Coming Soon". Abingdon makes DC to NYC doable with great care, or with a detour to King of Prussia, easy.
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    Re: Electrify America Network

    Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:02 pm

    Lacey Walmart has broken ground. Looks like 4 stations and positioned where a LEAF could charge in a non designated parking space as long as the cord will stretch about 6-7 feet.
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    Re: Electrify America Network

    Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:12 pm

    Las Vegas, NV is open, #13 for the month and #124 total.
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    Re: Electrify America Network

    Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:50 pm

    Five more sites have opened, making 18 for the month and 129 total: Battle Mtn., NV (I-80 btwn Winnemucca and Elko); Booneville, MO (I-70, btwn STL and KCM, W. of Columbia); Mishawaka, IN (I-80/90, N.E. of South Bend); Valdosta, GA (Jct. I-75/U.S. 221); Lake City, FL ((Jct. I-10/U.S. 441, east of Jct. w/I-75).

    Booneville makes it possible to reach Kansas City or even Topeka from Collinsville, IL with great care. Mishiwaka makes it possible to travel btwn Chicago and Toledo with care, or to Detroit via Lansing. Valdosta combined with Lake City connects I-75 all the way from Forsyth, GA with great care down to Bushnell, and from Bushnell you can get to Tampa/St. Pete or Orlando. Lake City also connects I-75 from Chipley to Jacksonville with extreme care.
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    Re: Electrify America Network

    Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:26 pm

    Four more sites are open, making 22 for the month and 133 total: Yuma, AZ (Jct. I-8/U.S. 95); Eau Claire, WI (Jct. I-94/U.S. 53); Geneseo, IL (Jct. I-80/S.R. 82); Georgetown, KY (Jct. I-75/U.S. 62, N. of Lexington).

    Geneseo is 107 miles from Williamsburg, IA (I-80), 126 from Bloomington, IN (I-80/39 or I-74/80) and 132 miles from Woodridge, IL. Eau Claire is the first site in Wisconsin and Yuma the first in Arizona, meaning there are now EA QCs in 33? states; need to check my paper tally at home to confirm [Edit: 35] . Eau Claire is 93 miles from Minneapolis but 192 from Green Bay. Tomah and Madison, WI are both 'coming soon', so they will allow travel between the Twin Cities and Chicago. From Yuma you can reach San Diego with great care (172 miles), Phoenix with extreme care (185 miles). Georgetown allows you to reach Cincinnati easily via I-75 from the south, Dayton with some care, and Columbus with great care.
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